Changeover Poll

[DaveMage]

It's just for fun.

750 posts worth of fun indeed!

Boo-yah!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Give it a try, boost your favorite result a couple of votes. Or 10 or 20. You won't be doing any real harm, since I guarantee you it has already been done.

You guarantee that someone has cheated on the poll?

 

[Scribble]

750 posts worth of fun indeed!

Boo-yah!

In that same way that when you have one of those ulcer things in your mouth poking at it with your tongue is fun.

 

[Barcode]

You guarantee that someone has cheated on the poll?

Yes. Yes I do.

 

[Jasperak]

In that same way that when you have one of those ulcer things in your mouth poking at it with your tongue is fun.

Where the hell has your tongue been?!?

 

[Treebore]

You guarantee that someone has cheated on the poll?

Don't worry. I don't think he is right anyways. I cleared my cookies yesterday morning and hadn't signed in when I visited this board, and thread, yesterday. I couldn't vote, let alone post, until I signed in again.


So based on that, you have to create, and sign into, a valid ENWorld account before you can vote/post. Since it knew I voted once I was signed in, I certainly cannot vote multiple times.

 

[Treebore]

In fact, it identified me by my ISP address, so the only way Barcode, or anyone can cheat on this poll is to create multiple ENWorld accounts from different ISP locations, which are not from your own house, unless you have multiple routers, or a business with multiple routers, and you know which computers go through which routers.

You definitely cannot do it from the same ISP address, and not be signed in, even with cleared cookies, or else I would have been able to vote again yesterday.

That or I have a mutant ISP.

 

[Scribble]

In fact, it identified me by my ISP address, so the only way Barcode, or anyone can cheat on this poll is to create multiple ENWorld accounts from different ISP locations, which are not from your own house, unless you have multiple routers, or a business with multiple routers, and you know which computers go through which routers.

You definitely cannot do it from the same ISP address, and not be signed in, even with cleared cookies, or else I would have been able to vote again yesterday.

That or I have a mutant ISP.

ISP address or IP address?

If it's an IP address variable IP addresses are somewhat common.

Also you're incorrect... at least from where I sit. You don't need to be logged in to vote. Post- yes you need an account, but not to vote. And everytime you log in / then log back out the system seems to forget about you, so each time you log out you can vote as a guest, log in, the log back out and re-vote as a guest.

 

[Treebore]

ISP address or IP address?

If it's an IP address variable IP addresses are somewhat common.

Really? Well, when I try to do port forwarding the only "Address" other computers outside of my router care about is my router IP, which is provided by my ISP. On my side of the router each of my computers have different IP's, but when I sign onto the internet the only IP ENWorld sees is the one IP my router has, not those of each of my 4 computers.

So no matter what computer I am on when I sign into ENWorld, it still knows I voted, and it does not offer me a new chance to vote. I can only presume that is because my router only has one IP, and that is the IP ENWorld sees, not the IP of the computer I am using on the LAN side of my router.

 

[Edena_of_Neith]

(blinks)

Changeover: 34%
No Changeover: 57%
Partial Changeover: 9%

There has been a major shift. The numbers just moved out of the range, which they had stayed within from votes 400 through 1,200. They are out of that range, in favor of 4E.

Changeover (to 4E) had moved 1 percentile above the standard range.
No Changeover (to 4E) has moved 1 percentile below the standard range.

If this trend continues, it could swing the results of the Changeover Poll into pro-4E territory it has never been in before.

Edena_of_Neith

EDIT:

I have completely ignored the idea of anyone 'cheating' on this poll, or 'stuffing the ballot box' on this poll, even though I know it can be done.
Why?
Because if one side is doing it, I'm sure the other side is doing it. People on both sides feel strongly about this issue, and I honestly believe that if one side feels strongly enough to 'stuff the ballot box' then the other side does too.

The result?

+1 added to -1 = 0.
The 'stuffing the ballot box' effect is countered by the other side 'stuffing the ballot box', and the two effects neutralize each other. The result is Null.