Hussar
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The one in Hussar's comment, directly above mine.
Umm, the entire last page has been about that. I suggest you start with comment #5 by Water Bob and go forward.
The one in Hussar's comment, directly above mine.
Umm, the entire last page has been about that. I suggest you start with comment #5 by Water Bob and go forward.
I have a few problems with Discovery so far:
1. For a show named Discovery, there's precious little of that going around. I think the only time we've even seen a planet surface is the pilot.
2. Evil captain. Lorca has gone totally off the reservation, and belongs with folks like Benjamin Maxwell on the list of rogue Starfleet captains.
3. The Klingon redesign. It looks way worse than TNG/DS9-era klingons - and at this point, klingons should be very human-looking on account of Enterprise-era shenanigans.
3b. Klingons speaking Klingon with one another when alone. It's a time-honored tradition to have people who speak foreign languages speak the show's main language (usually English) when alone. It is understood that they do not actually speak English, but that it's presented as such for the viewer's convenience - not to mention the actors'. I bet that the actors would feel more confident acting in English than in Klingon.
You may be projecting a bit on that.
Fair enough I suppose. After seeing complaint after complaint after complaint, it becomes a bit too easy to get touchy about yet another in an seemingly endless stream of people bitching about how this "just isn't Star Trek". I mean, why bring up the point about "no female captains" if it isn't to make yet another point about how they are changing canon? In this thread alone we've got people bitching about replicators (oh, sorry, synthesizers, yeah, because THAT'S going to make the difference), Treknobabble (all the while forgetting that 99% of the "science" in any version of Star Trek is babble anyway - what exactly is a phaser or a photon torpedo?), how our utopian future has been taken away, AND we're now allowing female captains.
Personally, I think Jason Isaac's reaction to haters is pretty much pitch perfect: https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entr...go-fck-themselves_us_59d9bbe0e4b0f6eed350ce3b
Let us be clear: I dislike people who dislike STISCO because of race or gender much more than I dislike (elements of) STISCO itself, and I suggest we simply move on.
Isaacs response is all that needs to be said for that kind of base complaints, really.
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OTOH, we have discovered a new intelligent race in the space pigs and dealt with that. We've discovered a new form of travel. And, considering they are in the middle of a large scale war, I'm thinking that scientific exploration is a bit much to ask.
I wonder if the same complaints applied to DS9.
We've seen them, yes. As antagonists. I would prefer it if they weren't co-leads. I mean, I'm willing to wait and see and I hope that Lorca will be replaced fairly soon, but I don't want to see a whole show about The Bad Starfleet Captain. Similarly, I'm not particularly looking forward to the Punisher, who in my book is a fairly straightforward villain, albeit one mainly directed at other villains.Yup. Loving it. We've seen lots of evil captains over the years. Guys that have gone completely off. TOS had John Gill (admitted not a captain) who created Nazi Germany on an alien race. Roger Korby wants to replace all of humanity with androids. Captain Tracy slaughters thousands in violation of the Prime Directive. On and on and on. It's quite refreshing, IMO, to see an example of a bad captain going bad.
Umm, ST TMP shows alien looking Klingons. And that's TOS era. Look, the reason we had human looking Klingons back in the day was because of budget constraints. Which don't exist now. What's the problem with having alien looking Klingons?
I certainly can. The Klingon language works best in short bursts, not when holding long speeches (as in the pilot).Again, budget constraints. And, well, the fact that Klingon as a language didn't exist. You can't on one hand applaud the work of Trek fans for creating a consistent language and then bitch about the fact that Trek actually USES that language.