D&D (2024) Do you plan to adopt D&D5.5One2024Redux?

[Micah Sweet]

Yeah. It is not that far fetched to apply a prone condition to an ooze.

It is knocked over instead of knocked down.

You can always find a reason to make stuff like that work. The problem as I see it is a design philosophy that demands you find that reason.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Yeah

It feels like you and I might just picture oozes and tripping and prone differently? I will take my momentary edition victory for this (that the 5e creators agree with me) as balancing out the places I don't like and they agree with you. <Insert deflated "Yay" sound in the background.>

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Correct. I usually imagine it as having 2 forms. A slimy form and a yelly like form.

 

[Cadence]

@Gimby

I'm happy to rag on things I think are silly in 3.5 (or any other edition) too - and trippable oozes are on my list.

My efforts to find a thread to necro and complain that 3.5 allows oozes to be tripped has been thwarted by the 3.5 FAQ:

D&D 4E - Ben Riggs' "What the Heck Happened with 4th Edition?" seminar at Gen Con 2023

How come no one ever complained about tripping oozes in 3rd Edition?? The Ooze type doesn't grant trip immunity... https://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm What that addressed in 3.5? Pathfinder doesn't say Oozes are immune to trips either...

www.enworld.org

 

[Cadence]

Yeah

Correct. I usually imagine it as having 2 forms. A slimy form and a yelly like form.

On the other hand, I have an image in my head of the green slime being a creature that walked upright to chase folks. Is there some art somewhere like that that in an old edition, or am I hallucinating things like an AI?

 

[Vaalingrade]

@Gimby


My efforts to find a thread to necro and complain that 3.5 allows oozes to be tripped has been thwarted by the 3.5 FAQ:

D&D 4E - Ben Riggs' "What the Heck Happened with 4th Edition?" seminar at Gen Con 2023

How come no one ever complained about tripping oozes in 3rd Edition?? The Ooze type doesn't grant trip immunity... https://www.d20srd.org/srd/typesSubtypes.htm What that addressed in 3.5? Pathfinder doesn't say Oozes are immune to trips either...

www.enworld.org

Ah, 3x's patented 'reality is unrealistic' schtick. Tell me you've never interacted with a snake without telling my you've never interacted with a snake (or a balloon).

 

[Cadence]

Ah, 3x's patented 'reality is unrealistic' schtick. Tell me you've never interacted with a snake without telling my you've never interacted with a snake (or a balloon).

Ah, I would certainly allow a player to try and roll the snake over a few times in something akin to tripping. (I still don't think the powers that be would like me necroing up an old thread to do it in).

So anyway, I will certainly concede the point to you about discombobulating legless things with an up and down (or equivalent) locomotive orientation. [5e, in regards to snakes at least, seems to agree.]

 

[Faolyn]

I thought the whole point of CaGI was to force the opponent to move in ways it might not want or intend to; i.e. toward you so you could smack it one.

Ah; I was looking at the wrong ability. There's also a Come and Get Me ability. I'm sure that caused absolutely no problems at the table.

OK, yeah, that looks not-mundane, although I could easily imagine it in a mundane way.

 

[Clint_L]

Knocking an ooze prone seems silly to me. I'd just overrule it. Common sense trumps RAW.

 

[James Gasik]

If I can knock a flying creature prone to make it fall, I don't see what the problem is with knocking a gelatinous cube on it's side.

 

[Stormonu]

On the other hand, I have an image in my head of the green slime being a creature that walked upright to chase folks. Is there some art somewhere like that that in an old edition, or am I hallucinating things like an AI?

Well, considering that green slime turns whatever it touches into green slime, I could see a version either where a humanoid is being transformed slowly enough to be a zombie-like, decomposing form dripping with green slime but still intact enough to be moving about on two legs. Or a case where the mind (soul) of the transformed individual is somehow able to "remember" its old self enough to mimic a bipedal form.

This needs to be statted up as a monster ... Green Slime Zombie and Green Slime Revanant.