Dr Strange 2: In the Multiverse of Madness (Spoilers)

[Thomas Shey]

Ok.

What's the difference between Wanda and Thanos? Other than scale? If Wanda succeeds, doesn't she cause an incursion between two universes, meaning that even if she succeeds, she will murder trillions of beings?

And what sign do you have that she knows anything about Incursions? Strange didn't until the Illuminati talked to him about it.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Ok, so...what does she think is happening to the townsfolk? Because there's a moral imperative to ask the question.

I don't think until after the fight with Agatha she realizes they're anything what they seem to be in her dream world. She's starting to see signs that are leading her to realize otherwise, but she hasn't gotten there yet.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Please. Strange made sure people got back with their families.

Cap has NO knowledge on how to deal with things of this nature...but if you want to say they'd write it so that he somehow did, fine. Of course, that also means there's no point in talking about whether or not Strange is a good guy or bad guy, how good Steve is, etc. It's all just writing...and bad writing at that if Steve somehow has a solution that Strange doesn't.

I don't think it gives Rogers enough credit, either. He's at his heart the Good Soldier--the guy who fights so others can live in peace. But that means he has the soldier's understanding that sometimes a situation doesn't permit everyone to have a happy ending. He'll reach for the harder win rather than the easy win which considers people expendable, but if he had the information Strange had, I don't think he'd have made the decision any differently. Its really not parallel to the situation with the Vision.

 

[Gradine]

I especially liked the part where big eyeball monster went sploosh

 

[trappedslider]

I especially liked the part where big eyeball monster went sploosh

I don't think there's a visine for that

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

And what sign do you have that she knows anything about Incursions? Strange didn't until the Illuminati talked to him about it.

Unless they go back and reshoot WandaVision, she has no knowledge of that. Same with every other movie and show that came out before Loki. People need to remember that at the moment in that show where the multiverse is unleashed, it happens along the entire time line: past, present, and future. So multiple versions of the universe and incursions and so on all suddenly exist throughout all time, as if it had always been that way. Yes, that may make some plot holes in previous stuff, or makes you wonder why characters who should know about this stuff don't, but it is something the viewers just have to accept and live with.

 

[Rabulias]

So multiple versions of the universe and incursions and so on all suddenly exist throughout all time, as if it had always been that way. Yes, that may make some plot holes in previous stuff, or makes you wonder why characters who should know about this stuff don't, but it is something the viewers just have to accept and live with.

Well, it is a multiverse of madness...

 

[pukunui]

I'm guessing that the big incursion that they're hinting at will be Kang the Conqueror?

 

[Thomas Shey]

Unless they go back and reshoot WandaVision, she has no knowledge of that. Same with every other movie and show that came out before Loki. People need to remember that at the moment in that show where the multiverse is unleashed, it happens along the entire time line: past, present, and future. So multiple versions of the universe and incursions and so on all suddenly exist throughout all time, as if it had always been that way. Yes, that may make some plot holes in previous stuff, or makes you wonder why characters who should know about this stuff don't, but it is something the viewers just have to accept and live with.

Frankly, at least on the "616" timeline, there's no reason they should anyway; its abundantly clear few people know about the Multiverse anyway (and I'm not sold that the TVA was actually preventing that from happening entirely anyway; I suspect alternates that didn't throw a Kang or time travel were of no real interest to them).

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

I'm guessing that the big incursion that they're hinting at will be Kang the Conqueror?

Jonathan Majors' next major appearance is in Ant-man 3, though which version of Kang he will be is unknown. There are no rumors that Strange will show up in that one, so it is hard to say. Also, since Clea is probably from another timeline, the incursion may be back on Earth 838 or Earth 617, seeing as how the dead Strange 617 ended up on Earth 838 with America, where Strange 616 then animated the body and used it for the dreamwalk. Earth 617 seems more likely for the incursion because their Strange basically vanished. But it could involve Wanda 838 and all the damage that happened while Wanda 616 was controlling her.