Dr Strange 2: In the Multiverse of Madness (Spoilers)

[Hussar]

Okay here’s a thought.

What’s the difference between Wanda and Loki? Loki enslaves hundreds of people using the mind stone to build a space bridge to the Chitauri. An experience that is very damaging to the victims as we see Selvig on the brink of mental collapse in Thor Dark World. It’s not a nice thing.

Wanda enslaves thousands of people, including hundreds of children so that she can play pantomime with her imaginary friends.

When she learns that she has just mentally and physically abused hundreds of children for weeks, she shows zero remorse. She does nothing to fix what she’s done. She just walks away, and cuddles up with the Darkhold.

And people are surprised that she’s the full on villain in MoM? Really? How much of a monster do you have to be before you’re a villain? If Loki was a villain in the Avengers, how is Wanda not in WandaVision?

 

[pukunui]

Jonathan Majors' next major appearance is in Ant-man 3, though which version of Kang he will be is unknown. There are no rumors that Strange will show up in that one, so it is hard to say. Also, since Clea is probably from another timeline, the incursion may be back on Earth 838 or Earth 617, seeing as how the dead Strange 617 ended up on Earth 838 with America, where Strange 616 then animated the body and used it for the dreamwalk. Earth 617 seems more likely for the incursion because their Strange basically vanished. But it could involve Wanda 838 and all the damage that happened while Wanda 616 was controlling her.

That credits scene involving Clea may be a lead-in to a future Dr Strange movie, in which case we won't know what it's all about for some time.

I'm just speculating that all the talk of multiversal incursions in general is building up to a big Endgame-style denouement with a major incursion by Kang the Conqueror.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

When she learns that she has just mentally and physically abused hundreds of children for weeks, she shows zero remorse. She does nothing to fix what she’s done. She just walks away, and cuddles up with the Darkhold.

Did we watch the same show? Because I clearly remember the scene where she found out/realized just what was going on in the town and she was horrified. Also, her control over Westview was just about 2 weeks, despite how time seemed to advance within the hex.

 

[Eric V]

Did we watch the same show? Because I clearly remember the scene where she found out/realized just what was going on in the town and she was horrified. Also, her control over Westview was just about 2 weeks, despite how time seemed to advance within the hex.

Why...does this matter?

 

[MarkB]

Technically there could be any number of futures where they win but Doctor Strange doesn't make it, but of course he can't be sure of that. See the Ancient One saying "I've spent so many years peering through time, looking at this exact moment. But I can't see past it." in the first Dr. Strange.

But she also knew that Doctor Strange was predicted to be "the best of us", even though she didn't live to see that happen. And what she was doing - seeing visions of her personal future - may not be the same as what Strange did with the Time stone in Infinity War.

 

[MarkB]

Only if they were dusted. If you were on a plane, and the pilot was dusted, and the plane crashed, then you are dead. No takebacks.

The one that always gives me shudders is the massive simultaneous pile-ups on every freeway or equivalent in the world, as half the vehicles become unpiloted.

 

[Blue]

Except that Vision is actually not a person, and thus, has no next of kin, nor would his marriage even remotely be recognized in the United States (or any other country for that matter).

This whole argument is predicated on something that has never once been suggested in universe - that Vision was considered legally a person.

It might be icky. We might not like it. But, there is absolutely no suggestion that Vision was considered a person.

It was not just suggested but confirmed that he was considered a legal entity for the Sokovia Accords. This is just incorrect.

 

[Enevhar Aldarion]

Why...does this matter?

Because some people either remember wrong or just don't know and inflate the amount of time way beyond what it actually was.

 

[Blue]

Just curious, the description of "villain" going around as a synonym for one side of a conflict.

That seem to require that in Civil War either Cap and his team are villains, or Tony and his team are villains. Now, one side is more lawful, does that mean that Cap & company were the villains of that movie?

 

[Eric V]

Because some people either remember wrong or just don't know and inflate the amount of time way beyond what it actually was.

But...is 2 weeks not long enough to make the point?