Enterprise 05-26-04

[LordVyreth]

Pretty good episode. But I had a problem with it besides the Nazi aliens, and with the season as a whole. Namely, where are the Earth defenses? Seriously, Earth knows that its at war, it already lost millions of people with a guarantee of future attacks that will be even more devastating, and they have a year to prepare. And they have nothing when the weapon arrives? They didn't build satellite defenses around Earth? No fleet of warships with minimal warp drives, since they're only built for solar system defense? They couldn't pull a rush job on that second Enterprise, or even commision a few more? They couldn't order all those interplanetary freighters or their escort ships back to defend the planet, at least on a rotational basis? They couldn't even ask the Vulcans for a favor that would save their species? It's ridiculous that Enterprise is back in its home system during wartime, and they have to rely on the friggin' Andorians to be their only backup (though the Andorians' return was pretty cool.) And we can't even write it off as saying the Nazi thing already happened, since the research station was there.

 

[Viking Bastard]

A year may not be that long, really, seeing how it took two years to build
the NX-2, which they already had the designs for. Who knows how long it'll
take 22nd century Earth to both design and build workable defenses.

 

[BrooklynKnight]

It takes Months to build modern warships.

It would take longer to build earths defenses, especially a series of NX ships.

Remember, a few episodes ago, the NX-02 Columbia wasnt due for launch for a few months.

During Archers Era they didnt have replicators yet so they obviously couldnt replicate the materials nessassary. They still had to mine and refine it.

Though, you'll note Earth DID have Orbital Defenses...

the weird thing is, why didnt the Reptilians see it? All they saw was the research satelite. The Arms officer even said that earth had orbital defense platforms......its weird.

Its just a whole lot of writers plotholes which plauge startrek.

 

[mattcolville]

Looks like a Turtledovian plot to me...

Yes. Aliens went back in time and made it so Hitler won. Otherwise, why are there Nazi's in San Francisco?

 

[myrdden]

Yes. Aliens went back in time and made it so Hitler won. Otherwise, why are there Nazi's in San Francisco?

The Nazis weren't in San Fransisco. They were elsewhere, probably in Europe.

Gah! Why am I answering?! I hated this episode!

 

[Cthulhudrew]

Actually they dealt with this early this season. Hoshi translated the xindi
'common' language early in the season. Into the translator grid it went and
that eliminated the problem (a definate cop out, but not one that defies the
rules they made early on). The Insectoid and Aquatic languages are harder,
being so much different, and they encountered them much later, so the
translation wasn't as perfect, needing Hoshi with him to translate vs. just the
translator.

Okay- I missed that. Cool, then. I'm glad they didn't ignore it, because, like I said, I think that's one of the really good aspects of the show.

Now if only they'd given them "real" names...

 

[Vocenoctum]

the weird thing is, why didnt the Reptilians see it? All they saw was the research satelite. The Arms officer even said that earth had orbital defense platforms......its weird.

Its just a whole lot of writers plotholes which plauge startrek.

Perhaps the earth "area" was shifting into the past already.

The odd part is still that the alien's had talked to the other aliens, so they obviously were in Future when the enterprise left the alien ship.

I dunno!

 

[Silver Moon]

I think I know what happened at the end- Archer was leaped into the body of a nazi soldier, in order that he can make right what once went wrong. And hoping each leap... will be the leap home.

Wow! That's a great concept. Heck, you could probably even make a whole new science fiction show with an idea like that. One problem though - Scott Bakula as the lead actor. I just can't picture him pulling off something like that.

 

[CCamfield]

I thought the episode overall was just average - not as good as some of the recent ones.

And the ending? Next season?

I like Nazis, but this is just stupid. To me, this is probably Enterprise jumping over the shark tank. Maybe a second time.

They had an opportunity to get back on track and tell the story of the formation of the Federation - but no.

The really gutsy route would have been to off Archer and tell the story of the Enterprise crew trying to form the Federation without the man history said was so important - but no.

This just makes no sense. Archer gets shifted in time, the Enterprise gets shifted, and none of the Xindi do?

We're probably never going to see the Xindi again, OR see the story of the formation of the Federation, because B&B want to play time travel. (I'll be surprised if Enterprise gets another two seasons.)

 

[Mistwell]

I liked the episode a lot, and I had no problem at all with the ending.

I thought the alien at the end was similar to the alien they pulled from that pod who was the test subject from the "guardians". I assumed it was the "guardians" just trying a different time line to knock out humanity.

How did Archer get there? I don't know. Maybe the Andorians beamed them over, and then landed on earth?