Enterprise 11-05-03

[Orius]

Does anyone not like the Andorians, espcially when Jeffrey Combs in under those antennae?

Nope.

The Andorians are one of the coolest aspects of Enterprise IMO.

 

[jasper]

I call Vulcans elves and Elves Vulcans because they are have same traits.
Smarter than humans, no sleep needed. longer live, immunity to lots of monsters etc.
Old fart because they did a great joke on Archer's makeup.
I went cold turkey Star trek in May. Except for 10 books I gave to charity over 400 st books. Books since I started collecting in the 70's.

 

[Mark]

They really did a great job on that make up. Another thing I am enjoying about Enterprise is the addition of new races that aren't just humans with forehead adjustments. Recent advances in CGI have certainly helped the franchise a lot!

 

[Shadowdancer]

I must admit I'm surprised at the reaction this episode is getting from people here. Usually everyone is so critical of episodes I like. When I watched this episode, I didn't like it much, which made me think posters here would really hate it. Oh well.

I didn't hate the episode. I'm just indifferent about it. I liked it much better as "Memento." I did like the ship-ramming, though. But I was put off by Archer, who supposedly couldn't remember anything since after the original accident, remembering new things as the episode went on.

 

[Orius]

I must admit I'm surprised at the reaction this episode is getting from people here. Usually everyone is so critical of episodes I like. When I watched this episode, I didn't like it much, which made me think posters here would really hate it. Oh well.

The episode does have one major weakeness: anyone who's a long time Star Trek fan knows that the Earth isn't going to get destroyed by the Xindi, since all other Star Trek series are set in the future. That's an overall weakness to the entire Xindi stroyline, actually. So long time fans will see the beginning of the episode yet know that the episode will have a huge red button labelled RESET before it gets to the end.

 

[Brother Shatterstone]

So long time fans will see the beginning of the episode yet know that the episode will have a huge red button labelled RESET before it gets to the end.

You know that is very true, but at the same time when the Borg where on that same door step I never once thought that earth was going to get blown up.

 

[John Crichton]

The episode does have one major weakeness: anyone who's a long time Star Trek fan knows that the Earth isn't going to get destroyed by the Xindi, since all other Star Trek series are set in the future. That's an overall weakness to the entire Xindi stroyline, actually. So long time fans will see the beginning of the episode yet know that the episode will have a huge red button labelled RESET before it gets to the end.

True. However, this was no dream sequence, it happened. We now know that Archer is the key to saving Earth (no big shock). But something that he does saves humanity and we certainly know that the Xindi are after more than just Earth, they want to wipe out all humans which is something I didn't know before.

 

[DanMcS]

The episode does have one major weakeness: anyone who's a long time Star Trek fan knows that the Earth isn't going to get destroyed by the Xindi, since all other Star Trek series are set in the future. That's an overall weakness to the entire Xindi stroyline, actually. So long time fans will see the beginning of the episode yet know that the episode will have a huge red button labelled RESET before it gets to the end.

On a metaplot level, all we know is that this is not how star trek history goes. Humanity wasn't supposed to be out cavorting in deep space by now, but the temporal guys from the very first episode changed history. That Klingon in "Broken Bow" was never supposed to go to earth. The warp 5 ship wasn't supposed to be launched so soon. Humanity wasn't supposed to encounter the Xindi like this. So theoretically, anything could happen, and I think it would be brilliant and entertaining if something truly bizzare DID, like a breakdown in human-vulcan relations, or being occasional allies with the Klingons, or making all their ships have 3 nacells and not 2, or something. They probably couldn't do this though, because the overly anal-retentive fan set would compain. But the writers have pretty much acknowledged that the temporal plots from the first couple seasons were there to break them out of strict star trek history, so Enterprise could encounter the Ferengi and the romulans and whoever else without people saying "that didn't happen, la la la, I'm not listening."

On a meta-metaplot level, we know that the show is up for at least the rest of the season, and will probably go the full seven, so Enterprise isn't really in too much danger, ever. And star trek is one of UPN's better properties, so they're not going to drastically break it. But that doesn't keep individual episodes or even the Xindi plot arc from having elements of suspense and danger.

 

[Mirsky]

i think that with the first season things started happening differently that made it's connection with the rest of the series lost. because of this i view Enterprise as a standalone series that has gotten influenced by others and is trying to hard to get good ratings.

i thought this episode was cool with the ship ramming. it came unexpected from Tupal.

 

[Mark]

i thought this episode was cool with the ship ramming. it came unexpected from Tupal.

That's an interesting point. She claimed it was logical but given the impossible task they would have without even warp 2, would taking their chances fighting it out with the two ships have been less of a choice?