Continuing the D&D executive producer's interview tour, gaming influencer Ginny Di asks a WotC's Kyle Brink about the OGL and other things.
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Now that so much has passed, for good, ill, or (most likely) in between, this is why I keep coming back to these threads on Kyle's interviews. I want 4e D&D put into CC so much I can taste it.
But they did for the SRD 5.1.I'm not optimistic about that happening (but I wish they would). It's not like they can flip a switch and it be done. There is no basis of an SRD for 4e. Their IP is littered throughout every power and feat.
Please note that previously he said his instinct is to just do it.
Ginny: People are asking if other things will be put into the Creative Commons like previous editions.
Brink: Were looking at it... We need to make sure we don't release things we don't intend or that aren't necessary for playing 3.0 or 3.5...
Me:
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But 5.1 is actually an SRD. For 4e they'd either need to create an SRD or say "Hey we're opening up the PHB, the MM, and these pages of the DMG as open content under a CC-BY license. Have fun folks!"But they did for the SRD 5.1.
Granted they were in panic at the time.
I was more keying I'm on the fact that the question was about previous editions in general and he answered specifically about 3.x.Please note that previously he said his instinct is to just do it.
But yea.
I think that's much less likely of a scenario. They are currently in litigation with one of these horrible people. And there are examples (BoEF) and 3PP who have said they are intentionally creating toxic material to get back at "SJWS", and there are more and more people recently who have spoken out with extreme vitriol about WoTC's "wokeness". It seems entirely more plausible that they did in fact want to take a preventative measure here.On the flip side, he had to say its about the future, because there are little to no examples, as evidenced by the various times people have said 'show me'.
From what I can tell, the 3.0 and 3.5 SRDs are far and away more IP-free than the 5.1 SRD was.
Ginny: People are asking if other things will be put into the Creative Commons like previous editions.
Brink: Were looking at it... We need to make sure we don't release things we don't intend or that aren't necessary for playing 3.0 or 3.5...
Me:
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There is an existing SRD. It's essentially useless, but it exists.But 5.1 is actually an SRD. For 4e they'd either need to create an SRD or say "Hey we're opening up the PHB, the MM, and these pages of the DMG as open content under a CC-BY license. Have fun folks!"
I mean, I'd love for them to do that, but expecting it is another matter entirely...
I'm not optimistic about that happening (but I wish they would). It's not like they can flip a switch and it be done. There is no basis of an SRD for 4e. Their IP is littered throughout every power and feat.
I am more and more if the opinion that this is true. And also the cynical view is, I think, partially true, maybe, but I hate to say it actually.I think that's much less likely of a scenario. They are currently in litigation with one of these horrible people. And there are examples (BoEF) and 3PP who have said they are intentionally creating toxic material to get back at "SJWS", and there are more and more people recently who have spoken out with extreme vitriol about WoTC's "wokeness". It seems entirely more plausible that they did in fact want to take a preventative measure here.
Yes, but they didn't have to do anything for that but hit a button. To do 4e they would have to create an SRD from scratch. That would take a lot of staff hours.But they did for the SRD 5.1.
Granted they were in panic at the time.
3.x is the one that is currently OGL and so I expect that the discussions are all about making sure folks who publish using the 3.x SRD are covered/placated whatever your POV on what they're doing is.I was more keying I'm on the fact that the question was about previous editions in general and he answered specifically about 3.x.
Literally just publishing the extant 4e SRD, useless as it is, under a CC license would be a huge improvement.Yes, but they didn't have to do anything for that but hit a button. To do 4e they would have to create an SRD from scratch. That would take a lot of staff hours.
In the words of Johnny Lawrence from Cobra Kai, all they had to do with SRD 5.1 was to "send it to the Internet."
Which SRD are you referring to (3.0? 3.5? d20 Modern?) and how is it useless?There is an existing SRD. It's essentially useless, but it exists.
That's the revised 4E SRD. For those who are interested, here's the original (shorter, at sixty-five pages) and the revised version (longer, at eighty-five pages).For reference, so I hopefully don't have to keep saying it:
...immediately followed by him saying hombrewing in 3d is complicated and time consuming and will require purchased assets. So it will supported in a "you can certainly try" sort of way. Which is fine, people can just not use the vtt, but the contrast was funny to me"Homebrew is essential to the game. We know that. It will always be supported in any version of the game."
Not really, but GD provides her gloss on his answers which is interesting (and makes for a shorter video)Before this thread devolves into a 4e (and its virtues/sins) thread, is there anything new coming out of the interview?![]()