D&D General Hey, are we all cool with having to buy the same book twice, or what?

[Jester David]

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False equivalence.

You can’t complain about the behaviour of a corporation AND promote its product thus sustaining the corporation.
This isn’t complaining about seat belt and buying a car, this is complaining about Ford while buying a Ford rather than a competitor.

I like Frostys. Love them. But I don’t approve of Wendy’s treatment of farm workers so I don’t go there.

Yes, Hasbro has done some questionable thing. And it’s subsiduary, Wizards of the Coast, has also done questionable things. But they’re still among the least bad of corporations.
And complaining that they’re not giving you something extra as a bonus that most other publishers don’t feels very entitled.

 

[FlyingChihuahua]

False equivalence.

You can’t complain about the behaviour of a corporation AND promote its product thus sustaining the corporation.
This isn’t complaining about seat belt and buying a car, this is complaining about Ford while buying a Ford rather than a competitor.

I like Frostys. Love them. But I don’t approve of Wendy’s treatment of farm workers so I don’t go there.

Yes, Hasbro has done some questionable thing. And it’s subsiduary, Wizards of the Coast, has also done questionable things. But they’re still among the least bad of corporations.
And complaining that they’re not giving you something extra as a bonus that most other publishers don’t feels very entitled.

You can't expect him to actually take action though, can you? That would involve effort.

 

[eyeheartawk]

You can't expect him to actually take action though, can you? That would involve effort.

I thought the way we change behavior we don't like in the market is to make our voices heard and vote with our wallets?

Not buying their virtual copies and complaining about it on a public forum seems to fit the bill to me.

Or does all that talk about personal accountability not extend to companies?

Apparently sometime while I wasn't looking WOTC/Hasbro has nailed itself to a cross and must not be criticized.

 

[FlyingChihuahua]

I thought the way we change behavior we don't like in the market is to make our voices heard and vote with our wallets?

Not buying their virtual copies and complaining about it on a public forum seems to fit the bill to me.

Or does all that talk about personal accountability not extend to companies?

Apparently sometime while I wasn't looking WOTC/Hasbro has nailed itself to a cross and must not be criticized.

Y'know, I have seen quite a lot of companies take accountability for their actions.

The People though? Not as much. It's always the companies fault, when they are just following what the consumers (that's you) want them to do.

 

[Parmandur]

I thought the way we change behavior we don't like in the market is to make our voices heard and vote with our wallets?

Not buying their virtual copies and complaining about it on a public forum seems to fit the bill to me.

Or does all that talk about personal accountability not extend to companies?

Apparently sometime while I wasn't looking WOTC/Hasbro has nailed itself to a cross and must not be criticized.

The irony train keeps chu-chu--chugging along, don't it?

WotC doesn't read these boards, first of all. Second, what they are doing with selling their books, and then licensing to Beyond, Fantasy Grounds or Roll 20 to sell other products, is cool.

 

[eyeheartawk]

Y'know, I have seen quite a lot of companies take accountability for their actions.

The People though? Not as much. It's always the companies fault, when they are just following what the consumers (that's you) want them to do.

Yeah, we want them to not pay taxes and utilize indentured servitude to make their toys.

 

[FlyingChihuahua]

Yeah, we want them to not pay taxes and utilize indentured servitude to make their toys.

well then stop demanding that they do so, so you can have fun, or find hobbies that don't involve exploitation.

oh wait, the happiness of one is based on the suffering of another, nevermind.

 

[Parmandur]

Yeah, we want them to not pay taxes and utilize indentured servitude to make their toys.

It's actually a bit questionable to weaponize those cherry-picked incidents in your argument that you want PDFs.

 

[FlyingChihuahua]

It's actually a bit questionable to weaponize those cherry-picked incidents in your argument that you want PDFs.

Don't you see though? Working in a sweatshop is exactly the same as not getting free stuff!

 

[SkidAce]

WotC doesn't read these boards, first of all.

I get your point, however I think its that they don't PUBLICLY read these boards.