D&D 5E I hate expertise dice as a universal mechanic.
JamesonCourage
Adventurer
Neither post thus far puts out very convincing arguments, but DEFCON 1 makes a more coherent point 
MoonSong
Rules-lawyering drama queen but not a munchkin
Well, a point against it. As a fighter exclusive mechanic it feels good, granting the fighter a mechanical niche. On the rogue it feels interesting, but at the same time it has watered him down. Being forced to follow the fighter rules, has given us a very weakened sneak attack (one that doesn't even feel familiar due to using different sized die).
Don't get me wrong, it seems fine when used for non-combat stuff, but we could have managed a similar effect with a different mechanic, one based on d6s that couldn't be used on combat except for sneak attack or backstab. However now rogues have become "like a weak fighter just with 4 more skills".
Also worrying that when rangers and paladins show up they will end up inheriting the mechanic too, causing fighters to become a weak class again.
Don't get me wrong, it seems fine when used for non-combat stuff, but we could have managed a similar effect with a different mechanic, one based on d6s that couldn't be used on combat except for sneak attack or backstab. However now rogues have become "like a weak fighter just with 4 more skills".
Also worrying that when rangers and paladins show up they will end up inheriting the mechanic too, causing fighters to become a weak class again.
I'm fully for expertise being a default mechanic for "martial" characters. It gives you a simple chassis which is easy to understand for newbies and makes it simplier to "learn" a new class, and each class can then be differentied by maneuvers. This is basically something I loved from 4e and would like to see kept in Next.
Warbringer
Explorer
The rogues stole the fighters' toys; only seems appropriate
Droogie128
First Post
Couldn't disagree more. They definitely need something unique to call their own.
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Warbringer
Explorer
Why do they need something "unique"?
Olgar Shiverstone
Legend
I'd like to see each of the group classes (and extended class-groups) have a unique mechanic. Base it on channel divinity for clerics, expertise dice for fighters, Vancian casting/spell slots for wizards, and something else (maybe skill-based?) for rogues.
Fighters, in particular, are always at risk of having their schtick stepped on and stolen by other classes.
Fighters, in particular, are always at risk of having their schtick stepped on and stolen by other classes.
