D&D 5E Idea a Redemption Mod for Infernal Warmachines in BG: DiA

[ECMO3]

Thoughts?

We are currently burning them up and my CG character kind of looks the other way. They are in hell so they are probably evil souls. They are already in the coin and we can't get them out, so they are screwed anyway. At least this way they are helping for the greater good. I think of it as casualties of a just war.

Also my chaotic good character is generally driving but I am not the "keeper of the coins", two other characters handle the coins. They are the ones putting it in the fire, so it is their sin not mine.

As a catholic IRL I tell my partner the same thing about birth control - she is the one taking the pill, so it is her sin not mine.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

We are currently burning them up and my CG character kind of looks the other way. They are in hell so they are probably evil souls. They are already in the coin and we can't get them out, so they are screwed anyway. At least this way they are helping for the greater good. I think of it as casualties of a just war.

Also my chaotic good character is generally driving but I am not the "keeper of the coins", two other characters handle the coins. They are the ones putting it in the fire, so it is their sin not mine.

As a catholic IRL I tell my partner the same thing about birth control - she is the one taking the pill, so it is her sin not mine.

Your DM should instantly rule your character is Chaotic Evil, burning defencless souls into agonize destruction is worse then murder, rape, torture of flesh, thief, etc, and there simple us no relationization that makes something so heinous acceptable or even morally neutral. Even evil souls don't deserve that and many damned souls weren't evil.

 

[ECMO3]

Your DM should instantly rule your character is Chaotic Evil, burning defencless souls into agonize destruction is worse then murder, rape, torture of flesh, thief, etc, and there simple us no relationization that makes something so heinous acceptable or even morally neutral. Even evil souls don't deserve that and many damned souls weren't evil.

Like I said, I am not the one burning them

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Like I said, I am not the one burning them

sitting back while the ally besides you does something that evil only leaves you slight less evil.

 

[ECMO3]

sitting back while the ally besides you does something that evil only leaves you slight less evil.

That is what someone who is Lawful Good might say, but I am not Lawful Good I am Chaotic Good. You be you!

As an aside - As a player I will take your word for it that "defenseless souls are being burned to agonized destruction", but at this point my character does not know or believe that to be the case. My character is a Rogue/Wizard who used to be a soldier. She is not religious and has little understanding of how these things work. She knows a soul is in the coin, and she knows it is destroyed/used by the Demon Grinder, but that is all she knows for a fact about the soul coins. She believes (right or wrong) that since these souls came to hell when they died; that they are evil souls and agonizing torture is what they get for being evil in life and there is little/no way to stop that. Maybe by burning them in the machine they are even being saved from an eternity of torment? She also knows that she needs to use the Demon Grinder to save the thousands of good people in the City of Avernus.

Shake that all up before you pass judgement.

 

[Bolares]

This is why I hate alignment....

 

[Levistus's_Leviathan]

This is why I hate alignment....

To quote Matt Colville's most recent video, "Sort of the whole point of alignment is to give us something to grossly misunderstand and argue about".

 

[Weiley31]

Now here's food for thought: What if the Soul within the Soul Coin actually wants to be burned in the furnace as a means of understanding and paying for the sins they committed? Like the soul knows the absolute results of what happens if that were to be done, but still feels that is the lot they drew in life?

 

[Henadic Theologian]

Now here's food for thought: What if the Soul within the Soul Coin actually wants to be burned in the furnace as a means of understanding and paying for the sins they committed? Like the soul knows the absolute results of what happens if that were to be done, but still feels that is the lot they drew in life?

I don't see it.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

That is what someone who is Lawful Good might say, but I am not Lawful Good I am Chaotic Good. You be you!

As an aside - As a player I will take your word for it that "defenseless souls are being burned to agonized destruction", but at this point my character does not know or believe that to be the case. My character is a Rogue/Wizard who used to be a soldier. She is not religious and has little understanding of how these things work. She knows a soul is in the coin, and she knows it is destroyed/used by the Demon Grinder, but that is all she knows for a fact about the soul coins. She believes (right or wrong) that since these souls came to hell when they died; that they are evil souls and agonizing torture is what they get for being evil in life and there is little/no way to stop that. Maybe by burning them in the machine they are even being saved from an eternity of torment? She also knows that she needs to use the Demon Grinder to save the thousands of good people in the City of Avernus.

Shake that all up before you pass judgement.

Chaotic Good is still good, the element of chaos doesn't change the most basic essence of mortality, especially something utterly evil as defenceless soul destruction in as cruel as way as possible which is as evil as it gets. Your characters rationalizations don't change that, this isn't some grey area.