Incoming: Star Fleet Academy TV Show

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Deadline has the article here-


The gist of it is that the Paramount+ Network (aka, the home of Star Trek and a bunch of other things you probably don't watch) is moving forward with Star Trek: Starfleet Academy. This will join the following new Start Trek series currently on the network-

Discovery
Picard
Lower Decks (Animated)
Prodigy (Animated)
Strange New Worlds (premiering shortly)

In addition, it is expected that a Michelle Yeoh vehicle that is a spinoff from Discovery about Section 31 will also air prior to this.

My personal take- eh ... I'll believe this when I see it. Not only has a Star Fleet Academy show been teased since Discovery started airing, I'm pretty sure I remember discussions about it since The Next Generation.

This concept has been hyped for so long I'm burnt out thinking about it. But maybe it will be good, if it ever does happen? What do you think- is this what you want to see, or are you also as ambivalent as I am?
 

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payn

Legend
This concept has been hyped for so long I'm burnt out thinking about it. But maybe it will be good, if it ever does happen? What do you think- is this what you want to see, or are you also as ambivalent as I am?
This is one of those things that I never knew I wanted until I see it. Or, its exactly as unnecessary as I expected.
 


Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
This will join the following new Start Trek series currently on the network-

Discovery
Picard

IIRC, the third season of Picard will be the last one. It is apt to be done before we see the ST: Academy show.

I'm pretty sure I remember discussions about it since The Next Generation.

Yes, I think the idea has been floating around ever since the period when Wesley Crusher was in the Academy.

This concept has been hyped for so long I'm burnt out thinking about it. But maybe it will be good, if it ever does happen? What do you think- is this what you want to see, or are you also as ambivalent as I am?

I think there's some problems with the general concept, to be honest. If life at Starfleet Academy isn't scholastically dull, there's a serious problem on the planet that should not be allowed to linger for years of a series.
 

payn

Legend
The basic package is $60 per year, or $5 per month. If they have, on average, one show per week that you want to see, you're paying $1.25 per episode.
Its not bank busting, but I did have trouble finding anything besides Trek I wanted to watch. P+ has to compete with Netflix, Amazon, HBOMax, etc.. Its the least value for me. Though, I agree its not exorbitant in cost.
 

Snarf Zagyg

Notorious Liquefactionist
Its not bank busting, but I did have trouble finding anything besides Trek I wanted to watch. P+ has to compete with Netflix, Amazon, HBOMax, etc.. Its the least value for me. Though, I agree its not exorbitant in cost.

I have it because of a free, year-long trial offer. Let me tell you- when I had to quarantine due to a positive COVID test, it was great to be able to binge all of Picard, the remaining Disco (I had stopped just when it was getting really good), and Lower Decks. And that's not counting the upcoming Strange New Worlds, which I am super excited for!

But I totally hear you. For me, Netflix is a must-have simply because I've always had it, and it's a good fallback. HBOMax is necessary because it has the best programming overall (seriously, they pump out quality programming like there is no tomorrow; I just finished Station 11 and it was so good). I also have Amazon (because of shipping, but that's becoming a bigger moral issue for me) and Apple (because I get it for free).

Right there is more than enough ... and that's not including Peacock, or Disney+, or Shudder, or any of the other streaming sites vying for attention. There's just so much stuff out there.

...
but it you love Star Trek, it's getting increasingly hard to say no to Paramount+.
 

payn

Legend
I have it because of a free, year-long trial offer. Let me tell you- when I had to quarantine due to a positive COVID test, it was great to be able to binge all of Picard, the remaining Disco (I had stopped just when it was getting really good), and Lower Decks. And that's not counting the upcoming Strange New Worlds, which I am super excited for!

But I totally hear you. For me, Netflix is a must-have simply because I've always had it, and it's a good fallback. HBOMax is necessary because it has the best programming overall (seriously, they pump out quality programming like there is no tomorrow; I just finished Station 11 and it was so good). I also have Amazon (because of shipping, but that's becoming a bigger moral issue for me) and Apple (because I get it for free).

Right there is more than enough ... and that's not including Peacock, or Disney+, or Shudder, or any of the other streaming sites vying for attention. There's just so much stuff out there.

...
but it you love Star Trek, it's getting increasingly hard to say no to Paramount+.
Yeah, I took a black friday Amazon deal and got 2 months of P+ for 2 dollars. I looked at it as an extended trial. After ST, I couldn't find anything I wanted to watch. I even left 2 seasons of Disco on the block and figured I'd come back next year.
 

MarkB

Legend
I think there's some problems with the general concept, to be honest. If life at Starfleet Academy isn't scholastically dull, there's a serious problem on the planet that should not be allowed to linger for years of a series.
It's not like there haven't been plenty of good TV series in a variety of genres set in and around schools or universities. And we've seen plenty of evidence that Starfleet likes to give its students ample practical experience.
 

Ixal

Adventurer
So thats why Tilly was shipped off to the academy.
Seems like they are evacuating every marginally interesting character who can steal the show from Burnham to its own Spinoff series.
So what will the Saru spinoff be called?
 

MarkB

Legend
So thats why Tilly was shipped off to the academy.
Seems like they are evacuating every marginally interesting character who can steal the show from Burnham to its own Spinoff series.
So what will the Saru spinoff be called?
Heh, I'm not against the idea myself, but I'm pretty sure that if they set the Academy series in the 30th-century Starfleet, most fans will riot.
 


J.Quondam

CR 1/8
Because of course there was.

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Umbran

Mod Squad
Staff member
It's not like there haven't been plenty of good TV series in a variety of genres set in and around schools or universities. And we've seen plenty of evidence that Starfleet likes to give its students ample practical experience.

There's a problem of stakes - with so many actually qualified officers around, it is frelling dumb to allow cadets to regularly deal with high-stakes issues. It can happen once in a while because, well, stuff happens. But overall, to be plausible, the series has to overall be pretty low stakes. And I think writing a low-stakes show that Trek fans will find compelling is extremely difficult.

Maybe I'm wrong. If so, I'll be happy to be wrong, so I really can't lose here.
 

MGibster

Legend
There's a problem of stakes - with so many actually qualified officers around, it is frelling dumb to allow cadets to regularly deal with high-stakes issues. It can happen once in a while because, well, stuff happens. But overall, to be plausible, the series has to overall be pretty low stakes. And I think writing a low-stakes show that Trek fans will find compelling is extremely difficult.
I did joke about the Star Trek 90210, but I think maybe they could make the show more about personal relationships and personal stakes and still be compelling. Maybe.
 


FitzTheRuke

Legend
I doubt they care what the (old) fans think.

I don't think that's true. I think "old" fans is what drove them to "fix" the tone of Discovey and to greenlight Brave New Worlds. I usually find that if you do a project "right" (by not offending the existing fanbase) while also doing new, good material, you get the best of both worlds AKA success. Look at Marvel. They do what they do very well, and they gather themselves an audience that includes new AND old fans, and eclipse the fanbase of... everything, really.
 


Smackpixi

Adventurer
But overall, to be plausible, the series has to overall be pretty low stakes.

I don’t think there’s any danger the new series will break new ground by being plausible. They’re defiantly saving the galaxy during the first season, though no one will believe it necessary while they do, so they’ll have to break so many regulations and probably get temporarily kicked out. In the second season we’ll learn that only kicked the can down the road…
 
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