Knights of the Virgin

[Dannyalcatraz]

This doesn't mean that there will not be clerics who are corrupt.

The purpose of having no alignment restrictions for clerics is to make the campaign more realistic.

The gods are a bit smarter than that. At least the Good ones are.

In game terms, a Devotee of Hexor hiding within in a Heironean sect in order to bring it down from within would not be worshipping Heironeous but Hexor, and thus, would be receiving his powers from Hexor. Unless and until he revealed himself, he might appear to be a member of the faith, and even a real player in the hierarchy.

But the source of his power would NOT be the divinity he is only pretending to worship.

Even if you posit that deities have a dark side that attracts certain people to a twisted version of their faith, then there's this little thing called "Detect Evil" that D&D faiths have to deal with. Historically, this has meant that "evil priests have their own sect" that the good followers and priests don't normally interact with.

 

[Umbran]

A couple of you have taken to including real-world religion in this discussion.

Please stop. It is against EN World Rules.

 

[Hunter99]

A-d, you had some interesting points.

Especially the one about charms wearing off.

It is possible that I change the K.S.W. so that only those who join voluntarily are considered knights and the women who are kidnapped do not become knights.

 

[a-d]

That would only reduce infiltration issues and would severely reduce both the orders military strength and public image.

However, I can appreciate having such orders in a campaign I was in.

The thought of being allowed to smash them makes my eyes glow red and my teeth turn sharp as I smile.

 

[ExploderWizard]

I can envision the campaign now.......

A mighty struggle to topple two orders of knighthood undertaken by a small but dedicated party of heroes made up of homosexual men, homely women, and dwarves (of indeterminate gender) who fight for freedom as representatives of sentient being rights.

Unwanted by the powers that be, they fight for truth, justice, and the hope that someday society will care as little for straight men and lovely women as it does for them!!

 

[Theo R Cwithin]

I can envision the campaign now.......

A mighty struggle to topple two orders of knighthood undertaken by a small but dedicated party of heroes made up of homosexual men, homely women, and dwarves (of indeterminate gender) who fight for freedom as representatives of sentient being rights.

Unwanted by the powers that be, they fight for truth, justice, and the hope that someday society will care as little for straight men and lovely women as it does for them!!

Wrap this up in spandex superhero outfits, and the game might be tolerable!

 

[ExploderWizard]

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I disagree. Without feedback from reality how do such people find out how whacked they really are? Its a vital first step in self evaluation.

Edit: Besides he's bound to calm down once he finds the dominatrix that he's always been looking for.

Mod Edit: You're not in trouble, and you make a good point here. But please don't quote outright insulting passages, or other stuff that breaks the rules. It makes more work for us when we clean up. ~Umbran

 

[Umbran]

Folks,

You have a right to dislike things. Even to find them abhorrent. But breaking the rules yourself is not a good way to get us to see your side of things.

If you find it really offensive, report it, and walk away, please.

 

[kitcik]

Mod Edit: this should have been put into a report to mods, rather than in public. Please, follow your own advice below. ~Umbran

So, I suggest --> stop playing into it and move on.

Anyways, just a thought.

 

[ExploderWizard]

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While I do not agree with the OP's opinions I support his right discuss whatever he wants so long as he follows the community rules.

His personal views have nothing whatsoever to do with any industry and hinting that the ramblings of one lone voice harm the industry is giving him too much credit.