Loki Season 2 Discussion - Spoilers


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End of time or a place without time are pretty much meaningless things for humans, because we require the passing of time. The end of time would be place of maximum entropy, a humanoid corpse isn't going to decay there, because it would have already decayed, and then all its constitutent atoms would have decayed, and then any constitutent protons and neutrons, and it likely would have fallen into a black hole by then (even if it takes gazillion of years). So if there are people there, it's not the end of time. And if we could somehow send people to a "time" where the time ends, the time would no longer end then and instead pass until the aforementiond has happened and nothing was left. But I suppose it could be that the place Who Remains stayed us would have been the end of time if he hadn't somehow time-travelled there, or something.
And the TVA might not be part of any other timelines and a pocket universe, but it clearly has a passing of time inside it. Maybe there are some cheats in it, that maybe it can violate the 2nd law of thermodynamics and basically resets to a lower entropy state or something?

In the end, this is really the fiction and not the science stuff. It does whatever the writers want it to do.

Though if I had to guess what the writers want it do:
Timely's Spaghettification is not his death, but actually a Time Slip, and he slips back in a past where he can teach Ouroborus about the TVA technology, with the handbook that OB has written and was given to him. It's a time loop.
And the catastrophe will be barely averted because Timely has already prepared something to fix the loom and it will activate at the last second or something. (Maybe still requiring some heroic efforts to actually work).
And yet the folks at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe eat and, presumably, digest.
 


I dunno how literal 'end of time' is. It may mean 'the last period of time' (however long that period is).
agreed
pretty sure it's the end of time for the sacred timeline not necessarily everything. We've got at least one marvel hero from an alternate reality that's not part of the sacred timeline. and there are other beings like the Beyonders that exist outside of the universe and outside of Marvel Timeline. That's always been the biggest flaw in Kang the Conquerer. The living Tribunal could show up at any point and erase him from the universe. For all we know it did we just haven't caught up yet. Time Travel and Multiverse plots almost always fall apart into mushy messes that can't be rationalized, when good authors try them and we all know Hollywood writer's aren't going to try and stay focused on anything that limits what they can write.
 

That's always been the biggest flaw in Kang the Conquerer. The living Tribunal could show up at any point and erase him from the universe. For all we know it did we just haven't caught up yet.
If the verdict in Jonathan Majors' real-life court case goes badly for him, Marvel may have to have the Living Tribunal (or someone like them) step in and alter things, at least enough to justify a re-cast. :confused:
 

If the verdict in Jonathan Majors' real-life court case goes badly for him, Marvel may have to have the Living Tribunal (or someone like them) step in and alter things, at least enough to justify a re-cast. :confused:
At least they're considering damage control. DC just blew right through.
 

If the verdict in Jonathan Majors' real-life court case goes badly for him, Marvel may have to have the Living Tribunal (or someone like them) step in and alter things, at least enough to justify a re-cast. :confused:
i don't think that will help. The problem isn't Jonathan Majors the problem is a multiversal, time travel, quantum realm story where nothing can ever truly be destroyed. The reset button is there no matter what they do. It was just a bad bad story to port to Hollywood who can't keep anything sacred or unified for even one movie.
 

If the verdict in Jonathan Majors' real-life court case goes badly for him, Marvel may have to have the Living Tribunal (or someone like them) step in and alter things, at least enough to justify a re-cast. :confused:
Eh, they'll just recast him, like they did with Hulk and War Machine. Setting aside the IRL stuff, I really hope they recast him anyway because he is terrible in that role.
 

Meh. I like Timely. Reminds me of the Council of Wells from Flash.

My bar might be really low. ;). I liked most of the CW hero shows.

Then again I’m also a huge sucker for Doctor Who so my tolerance for inconsistency is very high.

It is fun watching people try to square the circle though and make time travel shows internally consistent. Talk about nailing jello to a tree.
 

And yet the folks at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe eat and, presumably, digest.
Milliways begins the evening just before the End of the Universe, then lets time proceed in the normal fashion. Then, as the evening, and the universe, ends, it transports itself (and it's planetoid) a few hours back in time (presumably to a different location) for the next sitting.
 

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