New Star Wars RPG!

[kenobi65]

I wonder what they heck they mean by "Saga edition?"

Well, given that the most recent releases of action figures from Hasbro (containing characters from all of the movies) have been labeled "Saga Collection", my guess is that "Saga" refers to the six movies, as a whole. In other words, "Saga Edition" is a new edition of the game, written to reflect all of the movies. Just a guess.

 

[Desdichado]

Probably a good guess. But, again, I have to seriously wonder what it's adding to what I've already got that's worth me picking up a third d20 variant of Star Wars when I still haven't been able to get a campaign off the ground as it is.

Something that had a lot of new setting material, i.e. a Knights of the Old Republic/Jedi Civil War era book would be something that I'd be all over; another revision/reprint with a little bit of new content, new layout and a handful of new images doesn't entice me much at all.

 

[kenobi65]

Probably a good guess. But, again, I have to seriously wonder what it's adding to what I've already got that's worth me picking up a third d20 variant of Star Wars when I still haven't been able to get a campaign off the ground as it is.

Heh...counting my West End Games SW books, this'd be my sixth different Star Wars RPG "core rulebook."

My guess would be that the biggest areas of change, versus the d20 Revised Core Rulebook, would be:
- Revised rules on Jedi / the Force, due to new information from RotS (e.g., good guys using Force Push / Strike, etc.)
- Better starship / vehicle combat rules (probably cribbed in part from the upcoming starship minis game)

 

[Wraith Form]

Hell, just throw a company of stormtroopers at them and their goal is to escape Planet X with their hides and most of their ship. That's Star Wars adventure enough.

That doesn't sound like a very exciting "adventure"--not to cause offense.

Not to cause offense, but I find this excuse indefensible.

I'm not offended, but I'm not an experienced DM/GM. If you don't consider that an "appropriate" reason, that's not my issue.

Oh, and Tempest Storm is for 9th level (IIRC) adventurers. I'd prefer 1st through 8th to be filled in somehow. Some of the other items you mention I don't own.

The setting itself caused my brain to organically create a full campaign arc in just a few hours (all that was left was building the scenes and inserting the threats).

I'm really, tremendously thrilled as hell that it caused an explosion of creativity for you. It didn't for me. What can I say? Am I a horrible person because I wasn't as inspired as you? (There was an implication that I am in the tone of your post.)

 

[irdeggman]

I also beleive that "saga" refes to the entire Star Wars (6 movie) saga - not the old game that died painfully when introduced.

It could use a rules rewrite. The revised rules were somewhere between 3.0 and 3.5 in comparision but closer to 3.0. They still had "refocus" as an action.

There are a lot of things from Jedi Counseling that could/should be incorporated.

I seriously doubt if it will be something that doesn't look a lot like the 3.5 rules.

 

[humble minion]

I know your pain. Luckily, I really like to fiddle with rules and have found a group that doesn't mind playing "StarWars 3.5" with me.

My current list of house rules (which are my attempt to compensate for much of what you mention), are online here:

Morningstar d20 StarWars

Yeah, I put a fair bit of effort into house rules for a while too, but the major issues (attack/defense imbalance and starship combat) were just too big for me to tackle, and I'd already introduced so many house rules that my players couldn't keep them straight and were getting mutinous. So nowadays I just run it in a rather rules-light fashion and cheat mercilessly when the good of the story requires it. Fortunately, my players trust me to do that sort of thing, or I would have dumped the campaign long ago.

 

[Turanil]

There's not much we can say about the book itself, due to those pesky NDAs. <...> Of course it'll be developed and edited (thank goodness), and playtested... and one of the reasons we can't talk about the book is that it's so far out a lot could change between now and then. <...>

Sounds like it is a totally new version much different from the Revised Corebook. I will get a look for sure, but for buying it that's another story. Maybe if I find people willing to buy my older versions of the d20SW game...

 

[ragboy]

That doesn't sound like a very exciting "adventure"--not to cause offense.

To get the characters MOVING, give you some DM'ing experience in a relatively simple encounter and give a story an initial direction, it's about as Star Wars RPG as it gets.

I'm not offended, but I'm not an experienced DM/GM. If you don't consider that an "appropriate" reason, that's not my issue.

I wasn't trying to start a fight, just illustrate that the resources are out there. If you're not so experienced, I'd suggest the Boxed Set. There's a mini-arc of adventures that take characters from 1st to 3rd level. I started my kids on it because they were complete neophytes to d20 and RPG's in general. Lots of action, some opportunities for intrigue/interaction and a ready-made plot. I think the benefit of the SW universe over D&D or other campaigns is that most people are conversant in the mythos, at least of the movies. If you tell someone there's a wookie standing in front of them, they know what that is, typically. In my kids' case, it was exactly the game they needed to get interested in other forms of RPG'ing.

Again, not telling you you're a horrible person, just trying to give you some options if you decide to come back into the SWRPG fold. It's a great change of pace if your group is stuck in a D&D rut, and I prefer the universe to a standard sci-fi universe since you can do a lot of 'fantasy' stuff and no one bats an eye. Sorry to come off as overbearing and accusatory.

 

[Wraith Form]

Sorry to come off as overbearing and accusatory.

It's cool. Peace re-established.

I'll be buying the books and reading them--whether or not I game in the universe. I love to read the books just for the little "gems" that get thrown out.

 

[Ranger REG]

Maybe if I find people willing to buy my older versions of the d20SW game...

Heh. Reminds me of a time when they try to push that 3.5e is still backward compatible with older 3.0e products but honestly, the fans just doesn't buy it.

I wonder if POTJ and DSSB reprints this summer is going to be attractive to SW d20 gamers who are already exposed to the Saga edition news leak.