No More Reptiles with Boobs!

[YRUSirius]

If I'd play an anthropomorphic male dragon humanoid I sure as hell would like to have something else between my legs and not just a cloaca.

If we're going that far, than I want a justification.

Okay, how about this one: It's because of the same evolutionary process that moved that same kind of second posterior to the chest of the human women, because men like the look of a posterior to initiate the procedure of reproduction.

-YRUSirius

 

[Desdichado]

They lay eggs, and they're covered in scales. They also don't nurse their young, or have hair.

So do a lot of other critters, especially if you look at synapsid paleontology. And some reptiles did develop hair, or at least pycnofibers, which would have been mostly indistinguishable. And lots of mammals have lain eggs, including monotremes which survive today.

Ah, see I dont see it as focusing on one thing and accepting that nothing else is scientifically plausible. Most of the other verisimilitude-breaking things bother me too.

I do. From a biological perspective, having scales and laying eggs and having "boobies" is much less of a verisimilitude breaking thing than sprouting an extra pair of limbs or breathing fire. Therefore, to me, dragons are obviously not reptiles. And as a consequence, dragonborn having boobies isn't necessarily all that weird.

Although I'll allow for the fact that a lot of fantasy fans may not really understand biology well enough to realize that. But in that case, they probably shouldn't complain about dragonboobies on the grounds that it's not realistic for reptiles to have boobs, either.

I just think anthropomorphising everything to have primate boobs is a little too ridiculous.

Whereas I think that, on the other hand, is a perfectly reasonable reason to not like dragonboobies.

 

[Sylrae]

I just think anthropomorphising everything to have primate boobs is a little too ridiculous.

Whereas I think that, on the other hand, is a perfectly reasonable reason to not like dragonboobies.

Well then; lets be honest here: thats the first reason they bug me. All of the parts of it that don't make sense being pointed out are minor gripes or serve to more 'legitimize' the fact that it bugs me so much.

 

[enrious]

Okay, how about this one: It's because of the same evolutionary process that moved that same kind of second posterior to the chest of the human women, because men like the look of a posterior to initiate the procedure of reproduction.

Heh, I don't think that was very convincing when Desmond Morris tried that argument either.

 

[Sylrae]

Okay, how about this one: It's because of the same evolutionary process that moved that same kind of second posterior to the chest of the human women, because men like the look of a posterior to initiate the procedure of reproduction.

That one doesn't hold up for me.

If I'd play an anthropomorphic male dragon humanoid I sure as hell would like to have something else between my legs and not just a cloaca.

If I'm an anthropomorphic male dragon humanoid; I have a cloica. I chose to play a lizard; so I'm a lizard. lol

 

[YRUSirius]

That one doesn't hold up for me.

Why not? It does for mother nature.

If I'm an anthropomorphic male dragon humanoid; I have a cloica. I chose to play a lizard; so I'm a lizard. lol

You forgetting the anthropomorphic part?

An anthropomorphic cat woman isn't a cat, so an anthropomorphic male dragon isn't a dragon or even a lizard, it's something inbetween. Are you a doctor in fantasy biology that you can say for sure that an anthropomorphic male dragon does have a cloaca instead of an human peewee? See? This kind of discussion is absurd. Absolutely Comic Book Guy absurd, sorry.

-YRUSirius

 

[Glade Riven]

Personally, I find dragonborn to be closer to monotremes than lizards. Dragons in D&D for the last decade have been depicted more akin to mammal-like reptiles than true reptiles. They aren't theropods, although some traditional heraldry depicts them with feathers instead of leathery wings.

As for why...I just blame a wizard and move on. Dragonboobs make more sense than a floating cyclops/medusa head capable of firing 7 different types of deathrays from eyestalks.

 

[foolish_mortals]

it would have been better to have he pooping an egg(s) or something to show she's female.

foolish_mortals

 

[Dausuul]

I just think anthropomorphising everything to have primate boobs is a little too ridiculous.

Yeah, this is my feeling. Not that I expect to see dragonborn in the core 5E rulebooks anyway--I'm betting on human, elf, dwarf, and halfling.

But they'll show up eventually, and when they do I would like the females of the species to not have breasts. Not out of any verisimilitude concerns, but just because... eh. It seems lame. You've got a race of humanoid dragons, they have scales and breath weapons and hatch out of eggs, but the females have to have breasts like people because why? They're scared those weird incomprehensible "women gamers" won't identify with them (by which logic, male dragonborn ought to have beards)? Or are they just trying to cater to lizard cheesecake fans?

If we need the ability to visually distinguish male dragonborn from female, just give one sex a frill or a crest or horns or something. Or have one sex bigger and sturdier than the other. Or both.

 

[Wormwood]

It's going to be a long, dumb couple of years, isn't it?