No More Reptiles with Boobs!

[Ichneumon]

Poor old reptilian dragonborn - the moment their party tries to go on an arctic adventure, they're left behind in the snow, frozen stiff!

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

I disagree. More boobs.
It's okay if they don't actually have any mammary glans. The shape is what's important, not whether it produces milk.

 

[delericho]

The female Narn in Babylon 5 had boobs. Oddly, I don't recall that attracting any discussion...

There will almost certainly be far less representation of Dragonborn in the art of 5e than in 4e. And there will be even less art depicting female Dragonborn (especially if the 'iconic Dragonborn' is male). So, we may only be talking about a couple of pieces of art in the entire edition. I'm just not sure it's worth caring about.

 

[Nivenus]

The female Narn in Babylon 5 had boobs. Oddly, I don't recall that attracting any discussion...

Narn are actually marsupials, IIRC, despite the pseudo-reptilian appearance. They were also played by human actors on a 1990s TV budget, which puts certain restrictions on their biology.

 

[delericho]

Narn are actually marsupials, IIRC, despite the pseudo-reptilian appearance.

Which begs the question: how can we be sure Dragonborn aren't?

After all, they're a fantastical species living in a magical realm. Are we sure they've been declared 'reptiles' because the scientists have done the proper analysis, and not because Bob the Fighter declared that one "looked a bit like a snake"?

 

[Nivenus]

Which begs the question: how can we be sure Dragonborn aren't?

After all, they're a fantastical species living in a magical realm. Are we sure they've been declared 'reptiles' because the scientists have done the proper analysis, and not because Bob the Fighter declared that one "looked a bit like a snake"?

I figure this is a joke question, but as some have pointed out it's more than slightly possible they aren't reptiles. After all, 3e claimed dragons weren't.

 

[delericho]

I figure this is a joke question, but as some have pointed out it's more than slightly possible they aren't reptiles. After all, 3e claimed dragons weren't.

A joke, yes, but not entirely. The thing is, if Dragonborn, like Narn, aren't actually reptiles, then all bets are off. They can have boobs or not, at the whim of the designer.

(And, actually, it apparently is purely an art thing - originally, female Dragonborn were intended to just be smaller and slimmer than the males. But in the delivered art they couldn't really tell them apart. Hence the 'dragonboobies'. Of course, there are alternative fixes possible - a nice crest for male Dragonborn, perhaps?)

 

[beej]

While I personally did not like them at first, I have grown to accept dragonboobs. We're referring to dragonborn here, right? Once I see that on a non-polymorphed chromatic dragon, I'll probably flip.

You know what? I'd rather just get rid of the dragonborn and get back to the half-dragon. I liked them better, and the boobs can always be explained as "the human part." It wasn't as much of an issue when we had half-dragons flying around in what is my personal pet peeve: The chainmail bikini.

In the end though, meh. I wouldn't mind it either way. As long as they don't put them on thri-kreen. Or shardmind boobs, now that never made sense. Or better yet, get rid of the shardminds altogether. Silly 4th ed and their, "kobolds are a monstrous race but crystal people with boobs are fine!" antics.

 

[vagabundo]

I'm cool with dragons not being classed as reptiles.

Ecology of a Dragonborn:

Despite a passing resemblance to reptilian crea-
tures, dragonborn are warm-blooded beings rather
than cold-blooded reptiles. Their bodies are hot
enough to seem feverish to human sensibilities. This
keeps a dragonborn more comfortable in cold
temperatures. A lack of body hair coupled with a large
mouth that can be opened to release body heat means
that a dragonborn is no more vulnerable to hot
temperatures than a human.

...


Like true dragons, however, dragonborn hatch
from eggs, usually laid singly or, more rarely, in a
pair. Hatchlings are quickly capable of standing
and walking, but their teeth take a few months to
come in. During this time, the mother nurses her
offspring. She slowly weans the child to soft and then
normal food, which for dragonborn is usually more
meat than other edibles.

 

[Mithreinmaethor]

[MENTION=48520]Sylrae[/MENTION] - "They lay eggs, and they're covered in scales. They also don't nurse their young, or have hair."

If you believe that then you have never read anything about the Dragonborn and how they raise their young.

Despite a passing resemblance to reptilian creatures, dragonborn are warm-blooded beings rather than cold-blooded reptiles. Their bodies are hot enough to seem feverish to human sensibilities. This keeps a dragonborn more comfortable in cold temperatures. A lack of body hair coupled with a large mouth that can be opened to release body heat means that a dragonborn is no more vulnerable to hot temperatures than a human.

The scales that cover a dragonborn are tougher than human skin. Although these scales make a dragonborn less susceptible to small, incidental wounds, they don’t protect against damage dealt by weapons and similar purposeful attack. Dragonborn also typically lack the inborn elemental resistances true dragons might possess.

Like true dragons, however, dragonborn hatch from eggs, usually laid singly or, more rarely, in a pair. Hatchlings are quickly capable of standing and walking, but their teeth take a few months to come in. During this time, the mother nurses her offspring. She slowly weans the child to soft and then normal food, which for dragonborn is usually more meat than other edibles.