No More Reptiles with Boobs!

[Sylrae]

@Sylrae - "They lay eggs, and they're covered in scales. They also don't nurse their young, or have hair."

How do people keep missing that it was a response to "Since When Are Dragons Reptiles". So I pointed out several things showing how dragons look, and behave like reptiles.

But yes. I like Half Dragons. I also like the FR Dragonkin of pre4e (Remarkably similar, but they're large creatures, they have wings and tails, and I've never seen a picture of one with boobs. Additionally, they have ties with a criminal syndicate of religious zealots who worship dragons, and want to help the world become ruled by Dracoliches. IIRC They also act like the dragon race they look like, and have similar but lesser racial abilities. How is that not cooler!)

I'd like to see less of this "Give it Primate Boobs!" phenomenon overall, but if Dragonborn women have boobs, and are simply a monster manual entry, or are only in the "4e splat" then I can just ignore them and/or not use that book. In the actual 4e books they were everywhere, and I felt like I was constantly getting slapped in the face with dragonboobs in fullplate! (okay, not quite, but they were everywhere, and it was annoying.)

And if they bring back the "Discontinued Races" from 3e and earlier, we can fill our "Dragon Race" niche with the one(s) we actually like.

I'm hoping 5e brings back (at least as an option) the monsters that got dropped or retconned in 4e. Eladrin, Tieflings, Aasimar, Half-Dragons, Dragonkin, etc, and the FR Specific: "Sun/Moon Elves, Wood/Wild Elves" (Not all 4 need to have separate stats, just don't combine them with the CG Outsiders - Eladrin anymore.) I remember having a couple varieties of Dwarf, Halfling, Gnome, and Orc to choose from as well, and that was appreciated. (We don't need more than like 3 of each type, if that, but a couple subraces is always nice.) I'd be cool with human subraces actually having a mechanical difference now, too. No stat differences necessarily, but maybe each gets a different (Fixed) bonus feat or something.

 

[lutecius]

fantasy reptilian humanoids having boobs isn't such a stretch. I don't find it visually interesting (or even remotely appealing) but it never bothered me a much as the goofy Predator dreadlocks or the lack of a tail (tail sweep attacks would have been cool).
It's not like I'm ever going to play a one anyway (or any kind of furry/scaly) but seeing them all over the books didn't improve my feelings towards 4e.

It's okay if they don't actually have any mammary glans. The shape is what's important, not whether it produces milk.

mammary glans? now that would be creepy. milk or not.

 

[Tallifer]

I just want more boobs. How about more art like the original succubus?

How about a draconian succubus?

 

[Sylrae]

I just want more boobs. How about more art like the original succubus?

How about a draconian succubus?

lol. I don't know if there *ARE* female draconians. The art would indicate not.

You know what would be cool? non-bipedal races. Just Monsters repurposed/reworked as player races - the same size, with the same bodyparts as the originals.

Some of the best characters I've played used /monsters/ converted to run as players. My favorite was a Pseudodragon Wizard. I rode around on the party rogue and made him carry the spellbook. Everyone thought I was his familiar. lol.

I played as an awakened squirrel druid once too. That was pretty entertaining. Not a very serious campaign, but entertaining.

And once, as an awakened bardic? monkey (I remember I had a spell to summon a large number of monkeys who stole stuff and caused mischief, but I dont remember what class had that), in a horror game. I went crazy, and after one of the players died, I carried around his severed head in my left hand and talked to it, and the dead player played as my hallucination of himself.

If I want to play as a minotaur, that means being large, and having horns, hooves, and a tail. (and being immune to the spell Maze). If you make them medium, its now a Minitaur. and that's not what I wanted to play at all. lol.
It's like allowing a frost giant as a player race, but making frost giants as small creatures without cold resistance. Thats not a frost giant at all.

I'd like to be allowed to play as unusual things without houseruling it, and either starting with its iconic abilities or growing into them.

 

[Tallifer]

You know what would be cool? non-bipedal races. Just Monsters repurposed/reworked as player races - the same size, with the same bodyparts as the originals...
I played as an awakened squirrel druid once too. That was pretty entertaining. Not a very serious campaign, but entertaining...

Centaur boobies. And talking beasts like in Narnia.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

Let me just weigh in on the matter by saying that almost everything is better with boobs.

 

[Piratecat]

If I'd play an anthropomorphic male dragon humanoid I sure as hell would like to have something else between my legs and not just a cloaca.

It's a +1 cloaca of protection.

- Pirate"dragonboobies"cat

 

[Glade Riven]

Yeah, but it makes conversations awkward when someone checks to see what gender you are like they do to alligators on the alligator farm.

 

[Glade Riven]

I always saw them as theropods..Thats how they usually draw the feet, is it not?

But then they are missing feathers! Or at least feather-like structures.

 

[TarionzCousin]

I disagree. More boobs.
It's okay if they don't actually have any mammary glans. The shape is what's important, not whether it produces milk.

I totally agree.

The only way to be completely fair is for all creatures depicted in 5E to have boobs: females, males, monsters, etc....