No More Reptiles with Boobs!

[Umbran]

I do. From a biological perspective, having scales and laying eggs and having "boobies" is much less of a verisimilitude breaking thing than sprouting an extra pair of limbs or breathing fire. Therefore, to me, dragons are obviously not reptiles. And as a consequence, dragonborn having boobies isn't necessarily all that weird.

We could say:

Neither dragonborn nor dragons are "reptiles" in the standard biological sense.

Both dragonborn and dragons are "reptilian", meaning that they have characteristics similar to reptiles.

 

[YRUSirius]

You've got a race of humanoid dragons, they have scales and breath weapons and hatch out of eggs, but the females have to have breasts like people because why?

Cause male dragonborn people have two hands and because of some magic evolution the female dragonborn with bigger boobies got mated more often than the ones with smaller boobies.

-YRUSirius

 

[Dice4Hire]

Well do not complain to the designers, I do not htink they care, go tot he artist's webpages and bitch.

 

[Sylrae]

You forgetting the anthropomorphic part?

I prefer the artists who take "anthropomorphic" and apply it in a conservative sense, making the creature bipedal and giving them hands, and thats about it.

Yeah, this is my feeling. Not that I expect to see dragonborn in the core 5E rulebooks anyway--I'm betting on human, elf, dwarf, and halfling.

But they'll show up eventually...

I'd like to see them support the dragonpeople they already had. Yaknow: Dragonkin and Halfdragons, and Draconians I guess too, but they never seemed that interesting. But thats just me.

Of. And please dont give the dragonkin boobs.

Personally, I find dragonborn to be closer to monotremes than lizards. Dragons in D&D for the last decade have been depicted more akin to mammal-like reptiles than true reptiles. They aren't theropods, although some traditional heraldry depicts them with feathers instead of leathery wings.

I always saw them as theropods..Thats how they usually draw the feet, is it not?

Well do not complain to the designers, I do not htink they care, go tot he artist's webpages and bitch.

The designers tell the artists what to draw and what not to draw.

 

[Nivenus]

I'd personally be cool with "no boobs" on dragonborn ladies but to be honest I don't think it's going to happen. And as much as we may say it's because of fan service, my impressions from other forums suggests otherwise: that it's mostly female players who like "dragonboobs."

To a certain extent, it makes sense. While I'm sure there's a few dracophiliacs out there they don't comprise most of the male population, so a dragon with boobs isn't going to make most guy players go "I'd hit that," particularly when one realizes they still lay eggs. But for female players a well-breasted heroine represents the same kind of body self-inflation that male players get from playing a barbarian with an eight-pack and bulging triceps.

It's probably also worth noting that, according to 3e lore at least, dragons aren't actually reptiles despite their mechanical classification as such (actually, that's true for many real-life "reptiles" as well). It's also worth noting that mammals did in fact evolve from reptiles, so at one point, there were "reptiles" which lactated milk (or at least they were very reptile-like mammals). So the idea isn't biologically implausible - it's just very weird.

 

[Li Shenron]

I do. From a biological perspective, having scales and laying eggs and having "boobies" is much less of a verisimilitude breaking thing than sprouting an extra pair of limbs or breathing fire. Therefore, to me, dragons are obviously not reptiles. And as a consequence, dragonborn having boobies isn't necessarily all that weird.

The difference is that extra limbs and breathing fire are functional to the game, boobies are not. At best they are functional to gross humour by lesser educated gamers.

How about if all male depictions of dragons and every other monster in the books had a beard, or a pint of beer in hand so that male gamers can better identify themselves in their characters?

 

[nightwind1]

They also don't nurse their young...

They obviously do, or they wouldn't have boobs.

Plus, Deja Thoris laid eggs, and she had boobs.

 

[Sylrae]

How about if all male depictions of dragons and every other monster in the books had a beard, or a pint of beer in hand so that male gamers can better identify themselves in their characters?

I think a more direct comparison is if all male characters had a prominent bulge in their pants, seeing as not all men have beards. Though adding a beard to that wouldn't hurt, just to be sure and get the "lumberjack" look going.

They obviously do, or they wouldn't have boobs.

Sorry for the mixup there, in that post I was referring to dragons proper, not dragonborn.

Plus, Deja Thoris laid eggs, and she had boobs.

Who? lol

 

[Shemeska]

They're scared those weird incomprehensible "women gamers" won't identify with them (by which logic, male dragonborn ought to have beards)? Or are they just trying to cater to lizard cheesecake fans?

Why would you assume it's an issue of having to play a race that you can identify your own gender identity with theirs? It's an odd notion that only female gamers are going to want to play female characters (or male gamers male characters). It just tends to be natural to want to play a humanoid character that in many ways we can more closely associate with our own features (thri-kreen really being one of the only exceptions).

That said, as for your second statement about catering... it's probably a good bit of that too. I actually wonder if the art order for dragonborn artwork included that, ahem, "feature", or if the artists added it on their own because it seemed natural and/or they liked the look of it if that was their thing.

 

[Sonofapreacherman]

I like boobs. I was raised on boobs. D&D has a lot of boobs. Boobs of all sizes. Humans boobs. Elven and dwarven boobs. Orcish and halfling boobs.

I can live without dragon/reptile-anything races having boobs.

Yes, I'm also looking at you kobolds. No boobs.