D&D 5E One Punche Man Build. New Tasha's

[Hohige]

Playing with friends. We decided to play the arena with the new UA class variant that will be launched with Tasha's Couldron of Everything.

I created One Punch Man, literally defeating all enemies in one hit.

How?

Level 3~4 Sorcerer, Divine Soul

New Unerring Spell and Empower Spell.
Feats (Ritual caster for Find Familiar) or Martial Adept (For Feinting attack Maneuver) for advantage.
I choose the Feinting attack.

Use Favored by the gods for extra 2d4 attack roll (avg +5)
Use Feinting attack for advantage 2d20.
Use Unerring Spell for 4d20.

Upcasted to level 2 Inflict Wounds (4d10 damage) has +6 attack roll +2d4 (avg +5) for average +11 attack, so It's 2d20 +11 average

If the attack fails, Unerring Spell allows extra 2d20.
Your chance to fail is nearly zero.

Empower spell turns the average d10 (5,5) to 6,75 damage.
Total damage is 6,75 x 4 = 27 average damage + 1d6 (Feinting Attack) for average 30,5 necrotic damage.
At level 3, It's a fatal damage. One Hit K.O

Or Sleep upcasted to level 2, for average 31,5 HP and then critical Inflict Wounds for 61,4 average damage.

 

[NotAYakk]

Is that a certain hit? Let's see!

Suppose your foe has 21 AC (plate+shield+defensive style). A bit high, but let's test it.

Your attack roll is +6, so your target number is 15.

No boost hit chance, just advantage, is 51%.

With FbtG, your chance is 64% auto-hit with FbtG, 6% miss by 3 (15/16 hit), 5% miss by 4 (13/16 hit), 5% miss by 5 (10/16 hit), 4% miss by 6 (6/16 hit), 4% miss by 7 (3/16 hit), 3% miss by 8 (1/16 hit), 9% wiff.

Total hit chance is 79%.

Now add in your reroll attempt. FbtG on the 2nd swing boosts hit chance from 51% to 79%. Saving FbtG on a first roll miss is worth it if the boost on the 2nd attack is larger than the gain on the first.

You want to take the FbtG bonus on first attack if (FbtG chance) + (1-FbtG chance)*51% > 79%.

49% * FbtG chance + 51% > 79%.
49% * FbtG chance > 28%.
FbtG > 9/16.

So you'll use FbtG bonus on first hit if you miss by 5 or less.

64% hit, 13% FbtG hit, 3% burned FbtG and missed, 20% missed and saved FbtG.

This works out to about a 5% miss chance; about 4% of the time you missed, saved FbtG, then made an attack, and FbtG didn't help. 1% of the time you missed by 1-5, used FbtG, missed anyhow, then missed on second attack.

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However, a level 3 bear totem barbarian with 14 con has 33 HP and resist necrotic. They take your punch. They can even take 2.

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Your sleep combo doesn't really help. Burn an action for 31.5 KO; that is going to fail more often on any target that 30.5 doesn't drop than is worth it. And the failure mode is wasted spell, while the inflict failure mode is "target mostly dead".

 

[Pauln6]

Fisto!!

 

[Krachek]

In arena I will place my bet on the Pc with the alert Feat.

 

[NotAYakk]

How does this look ... at level 20.

Champion 3/Martial Adept/Elven Accuracy/Lucky. 20 charisma. Staff of Power (why not).

+13 to hit, triple advantage (feint), 19-20 crit range.

We crit fish using unerring spell and lucky giving us a 57% crit chance, dealing 24d10+2d6, or 139.

 

[Hohige]

How does this look ... at level 20.

Champion 3/Martial Adept/Elven Accuracy/Lucky. 20 charisma. Staff of Power (why not).

+13 to hit, triple advantage (feint), 19-20 crit range.

We crit fish using unerring spell and lucky giving us a 57% crit chance, dealing 24d10+2d6, or 139.

It's amazing ! The dice with Empower Spell (d10) is 6,75, so It's 169.

Doubles it with his Simulacrum for sweet 338 damage.
Without Action Surge or Quicken spell
To be fun, it can still be twinned.

 

[Hohige]

However, a level 3 bear totem barbarian with 14 con has 33 HP and resist necrotic. They take your punch. They can even take 2.

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Your sleep combo doesn't really help. Burn an action for 31.5 KO; that is going to fail more often on any target that 30.5 doesn't drop than is worth it. And the failure mode is wasted spell, while the inflict failure mode is "target mostly dead".

Bear Barbarian is probably the only class that would survive One Hit K.O.
But on the next round, sleep spell would be a death sentence.

 

[Flamestrike]

30,5 necrotic damage.
At level 3, It's a fatal damage. One Hit K.O

No, its not.

CR 3 monsters include the Bearded devil (52 HP), Manticore (68 HP), Knight (52 HP), Minotaur (76 HP), Owlbear (59 hp) and so forth.

According to the DMG, CR 3 monsters average over 100 HP (extra defensive capabilities reduce that number).

And FWIW, at 3rd level, you're likely fighting much higher CR's than CR 3 (a CR 5 or even 6 would be an appropriate Solo for a party of 3rd level PC's, and wouldnt even use up half that days adventuring day Xp budget).

 

[Hohige]

No, its not.

CR 3 monsters include the Bearded devil (52 HP), Manticore (68 HP), Knight (52 HP), Minotaur (76 HP), Owlbear (59 hp) and so forth.

According to the DMG, CR 3 monsters average over 100 HP (extra defensive capabilities reduce that number).

And FWIW, at 3rd level, you're likely fighting much higher CR's than CR 3 (a CR 5 or even 6 would be an appropriate Solo for a party of 3rd level PC's, and wouldnt even use up half that days adventuring day Xp budget).

Yes, It's true. But we are talking about PCs. ^^

A warlock has avg 23 HP, a rogue has 23HP, a wizard has 21 HP, a fighter has 28.
It's basically a one shot K.O.


CR is supposed to be a challenge for a four person party of the same level. So, CR 3 is stronger than a single character level 3. Right?

 

[Iry]

Pound for pound, I would rather just play a Death Domain Cleric. Inflict + Touch of Death is 33, and eventually ignores resistance and twin casts for free.