Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[CleverNickName]

There's some strong wisdom here, but there's always the question in your mind that, especially these days, have they really looked into other kinds of pizza? Are they sticking with what they have because they genuinely prefer it, or is their understanding limited by not having broad experience?

I guess I take them at their word: if someone says they enjoy something, they are probably right. I don't dig too hard into trying to convince them otherwise, because that approach usually ends badly.

A better approach would be "if you like the pizza here, you might also enjoy the pizza across town. You should try it sometime, it's my favorite." And maybe they will give it a try, maybe they won't--but they absolutely won't if you start saying stuff like "you only like the pizza here because you don't know any better."

Frustrating as it is, you can't trick, coerce, or otherwise force people to try new things, and there are a number of active threads at the moment who are really struggling with that.

I swear for some people this exact attitude is their security blanket. They fall back on it because they don't know anything else, and it's deeply comforting.

I agree completely. But comfort is a good thing, it's something that most consumers want, and something that most pizzerias want to provide. Being "too comfortable" is only a problem for new pizzerias--it's never a problem for the consumer.

 

[Thomas Shey]

I guess I take them at their word: if someone says they enjoy something, they are probably right. I don't dig too hard into trying to convince them otherwise, because that approach usually ends badly.

With me, it depends on context. As Staffan said upthread, if they're complaining about things in a particular pizza, I'm going to question whether they really do enjoy that kind, or its just what they're used to.

A better approach would be "if you like the pizza here, you might also enjoy the pizza across town. You should try it sometime, it's my favorite." And maybe they will give it a try, maybe they won't--but they absolutely won't if you start saying stuff like "you only like the pizza here because you don't know any better."

The latter is absolutely not something I'd say to them, but I kind of reserve the right to think it might at least in some cases, be the case.

Frustrating as it is, you can't trick, coerce, or otherwise force people to try new things, and there are a number of active threads at the moment who are really struggling with that.

Like I said, only time I start cocking an eye is when someone, say, keeps complaining about the marinara. That's pretty core to that old-school pizza there, so I have to question why they're sticking to it then.

I agree completely. But comfort is a good thing, it's something that most consumers want, and something that most pizzerias want to provide. Being "too comfortable" is only a problem for new pizzerias--it's never a problem for the consumer.

Unless they're having other problems with the place but are hesitant to try elsewhere because they've gotten too comfortable. But that's still up to them, and there's little point in upbraiding them about it.

 

[Mad_Jack]

That's a really common thing in those food style lists the internet loves. There are a couple "regional styles" of bbq that were really just a thing one or two people did until people got obsessed with listing out all the kinds of bbq they could find.

Y'know, every time I see a list of foods CT is "famous for" or that are supposedly traditional favorites or something, half the time I barely know anybody that actually eats them...

Thank you for improving my voice!

Well, I am a trained actor and amateur vocal mimic...

(You've never known cognitive dissonance until you've heard Darth Vader and Goofy doing "Who's On First?"...)

I saw a "gold" barbecue sauce in the grocery store today, which I have to imagine is the company's way of sneaking a mustard-based sauce onto people's tables.

I think one of the fast-food chains is using a "gold" sauce on their new Barbecue Brisket burger...

It's hot here in Indiana too, and not a dry heat.

It's 96 in CT right now, but only 51% humidity, so it's only mildly terrible.

 

[CleverNickName]

With me, it depends on context. As Staffan said upthread, if they're complaining about things in a particular pizza, I'm going to question whether they really do enjoy that kind, or its just what they're used to.
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Unless they're having other problems with the place but are hesitant to try elsewhere because they've gotten too comfortable. But that's still up to them, and there's little point in upbraiding them about it.

And it's also possible to both enjoy something completely and want to improve/customize it. Most folks like to customize their pizza...but I've seen threads where any customizations at all are used as indictments against the whole establishment.

Wishing the pizzeria had jalapeños on their toppings list isn't the same thing as being dissatisfied with the whole shop.

 

[overgeeked]

It’s always been a tortured and useless metaphor. And it only gets more haggard and threadbare as time goes on. If you refuse to eat anything except for pizza, you’re only hurting yourself. And intentionally missing out on a multiverse of delights.

 

[Gradine]

I agree completely. But comfort is a good thing, it's something that most consumers want, and something that most pizzerias want to provide. Being "too comfortable" is only a problem for new pizzerias--it's never a problem for the consumer.

I think maybe I was unclear; what I meant was that the whole "you play D&D? <scoff> You should play a good game instead" attitude is the security blanket. Like... everybody knows how counterproductive and condescending it is but some people just cannot let it go.

 

[overgeeked]

Not this thread or discussion.

Wow. Were your born with that silver spoon or did you have it inserted? Looks uncomfortable. Why would you put it there?

 

[CleverNickName]

Ah, yes...I totally misunderstood you, @Gradine. Lo siento.

 

[dragoner]

It's 96 in CT right now, but only 51% humidity, so it's only mildly terrible.

We could talk about wet bulb temps, though that is boring. Living in NYC summer could be pretty miserable too, grab a ballantine at the bodega and sit in the park at midnight because the apt was an oven.

 

[Deset Gled]

It’s always been a tortured and useless metaphor. And it only gets more haggard and threadbare as time goes on.

It's supposed to be at least a little light hearted.