Pineapple Express: Someone Is Wrong on the Internet?

[Maxperson]

One in five! That's not that bad - it's, like, a third of the people!

"Baseball is 90% mental. The other half is physical."

"You give 100% percent in the first half of the game, and if that isn't enough, in the second half you give what's left."

~Abraham Berra

 

[Maxperson]

They also don’t understand vaccines, pharmaceutical efficacy, and other aspects of how medicine & public health measures actually work.

Pharmaceutical efficacy is several thousand percent. No, wait, that's the mark-up on the drugs. Carry on.

 

[Staffan]

As with almost everything, context matters. Something that SovCits would do well to consider.

Sure, but when you are trying to communicate with someone you should probably make sure you share the same context. Otherwise people are going to hear "Most COVID cases are mild" and interpret that as "I guess it's not so bad" rather than "You might spend two weeks at home coughing your lungs out but it probably won't kill you."

 

[Maxperson]

That stuff is all rooted in scientific illiteracy & rejection.

And unfortunately, human nature.

How We Believe Lies Despite the Obvious Truth

Imagination paves the way for disinformation.

www.psychologytoday.com

 

[Thomas Shey]

My point is if you want people to trust them so this sort of thing isn't happening, those are some of the major reasons. I think instead of belittling people who might not know as much as you (not saying you are doing this but it is an attitude one encounters), understanding they are operating from a place of distrust and fear that isn't wholly without reason and needs to be bridged if you do want to build trust

I think if someone wants to speak authoritatively about something like vaccines, even if they're cynical about big pharma it behooves them to learn the difference between vaccines and other drugs. If they can't bother to do that--well, perhaps not opening one's mouth might be a viable alternative.

 

[overgeeked]

During the COVID pandemic, I learned that apparently the medical community has a different definition of "mild" than the general public – at least as applied to COVID itself. When most people hear "mild", they think "low fever, sniffles, stays home from work for a few days." When the medics hear "mild" they think "Does not require hospitalization or intubation."

Yep. There is a vast gulf between how average people use words and how scientists/medical professionals use them. It’s jargon. Take the word theory as one example. Two wildly different meanings when used by lay people vs scientists.

 

[Ryujin]

Yep. There is a vast gulf between how average people use words and how scientists/medical professionals use them. It’s jargon. Take the word theory as one example. Two wildly different meanings when used by lay people vs scientists.

Don't forget lawyers. There is a gulf of difference between the word "will" and "shall", for example.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Don't forget lawyers.

Said no one, ever.

Lawyers, or no lawyers; that is the question;
Whether ‘tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous litigation,
Or to take arms against a sea of lawyers,
And by opposing end them. To stop: to end:
No more; and by an end to say we forget
The verbosity and the thousand billing hours
That lawyers charge us; ‘tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished.

There is a gulf of difference between the word "will" and "shall", for example.

Lawyers love their old-timey words. Best usage is to replace "shall" with "must" to avoid this, and not use "will" at all.

Which makes it tough on probate attorneys, I guess? But no one cares about those ghouls.

 

[Ryujin]

Said no one, ever.

Lawyers, or no lawyers; that is the question;
Whether ‘tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous litigation,
Or to take arms against a sea of lawyers,
And by opposing end them. To stop: to end:
No more; and by an end to say we forget
The verbosity and the thousand billing hours
That lawyers charge us; ‘tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished.



Lawyers love their old-timey words. Best usage is to replace "shall" with "must" to avoid this, and not use "will" at all.

Which makes it tough on probate attorneys, I guess? But no one cares about those ghouls.

When the revolution comes...

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

When the revolution comes...

.... I gotta list of the bards!