Quick (heh heh) question about Quickdraw

[Saeviomagy]

If you want me to whip out the maths for it I will.

Suffice to say - yes, with a chair that approximated your body mass, you might just get away with it. But only if you were capable of jumping UP that 60 ft drop and then some.

Assuming full conservation of momentum, and a chair of your mass you jump once accelerated from the 60 ft drop. In order to stop (we'll assume the speed you want to attain is insignificant compared with your falling speed), you need to accelerate to to twice your falling velocity with respect to the chair.

If you could do that, then you'd be able to jump twice the height of the drop in the first place.

And as the chair gets lighter, you need to be able to pull off higher and higher jumps.

And now for something which isn't OT:

Kai lord - in what situation do you want to do this? Why not just fire the bow twice, quickdraw the sword and attack? At least now you threaten an area...

 

[Orryn Emrys]

What if he has multiple attacks from bab, can he take first normal attack with the bow, then rapid shot with it, change weapons and take second normal attack with his sword, and get an offhand attack?

I'm still curious about the multiple attack thing. Does anybody know if you can still get the extra melee attacks from two-weapon usage if you switch weapons during the round?

 

[kreynolds]

I'm still curious about the multiple attack thing. Does anybody know if you can still get the extra melee attacks from two-weapon usage if you switch weapons during the round?

This has already been answered. In short, yes.

 

[Kai Lord]

Kai lord - in what situation do you want to do this? Why not just fire the bow twice, quickdraw the sword and attack? At least now you threaten an area...

When you have a mix of combatants at multiple ranges, some that might even threaten you, but you want to use your best BAB against a ranged opponent while not leaving yourself open to more than one AoO.

Fire, get hit with AoO, quickdraw the sword and nail the pesky bad guy that AoO'd you, then drop and fire again. Obviously a very specific situation, otherwise it would just be done for style.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

When you have a mix of combatants at multiple ranges, some that might even threaten you, but you want to use your best BAB against a ranged opponent while not leaving yourself open to more than one AoO.

Note that noone can AoO you more than once per round. Not even with Combat Reflexes. Not with Improved Combat Reflexes. Not even with freakin' Divine Battle Mastery.

 

[Kai Lord]

Note that noone can AoO you more than once per round. Not even with Combat Reflexes. Not with Improved Combat Reflexes. Not even with freakin' Divine Battle Mastery.

Hm. Good point. Forgot about that. Anyway, since a 7th level Peerless Archer can threaten with his bow as if it was a 10' reach weapon I could see there being instances when he'd want to use his highest BAB to make a bow attack, take someone out next to him, but still end his round with both hands on the bow in case he's rushed by opponents who pass through his threat range.

 

[kreynolds]

Anyway, since a 7th level Peerless Archer can threaten with his bow as if it was a 10' reach weapon I could see there being instances when he'd want to use his highest BAB to make a bow attack, take someone out next to him, but still end his round with both hands on the bow in case he's rushed by opponents who pass through his threat range.

With what? His bow and arrows? If so, how would quickdraw even come into the picture, aside from the first use to draw the bow?

 

[Kai Lord]

With what? His bow and arrows? If so, how would quickdraw even come into the picture, aside from the first use to draw the bow?

He starts the round with just the bow, fires, then Quickdraws his longsword with his primary hand and hacks someone down while still holding the bow in his off-hand. Then he drops the sword and nocks an arrow with his free hand and fires normally.

EDIT: I see the possible confusion based on the wording of my post. I meant he first his uses his highest BAB to fire his bow first at someone farther away, then he takes someone out next to him with his Quickdrawn sword, then fires again.

 

[kreynolds]

He starts the round with just the bow, fires, then Quickdraws his longsword with his primary hand and hacks someone down while still holding the bow in his off-hand. Then he drops the sword and nocks an arrow with his free hand and fires normally.

EDIT: I see the possible confusion based on the wording of my post. I meant he first his uses his highest BAB to fire his bow first at someone farther away, then he takes someone out next to him with his Quickdrawn sword, then fires again.

I gotcha now. I'm not exactly sure why you would want to do that though, since firing that first arrow would provoke an AoO from the guy next to you. I could understand if you used your first attack with your longsword and dropped the guy next to you, then you drop the sword, quickdraw the bow and unleash arrow hell on the guy farther away.

 

[Kai Lord]

I gotcha now. I'm not exactly sure why you would want to do that though, since firing that first arrow would provoke an AoO from the guy next to you. I could understand if you used your first attack with your longsword and dropped the guy next to you, then you drop the sword, quickdraw the bow and unleash arrow hell on the guy farther away.

Right, but in the event that the guy who's the hardest to hit isn't the closest one to you, I could see there being times when you'd want to shoot him first and just eat the AoO. If you hack down the weaker foe next to you first, then Quickdraw your bow, you're firing with a BAB five points less.

If you're a Peerless Archer (which if you recall the first post in this thread, was the character I had in mind when asking this), you wouldn't want to attack with the sword last because then you no longer threaten with your bow. So that leaves using the sword between your bow attacks.