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Revenge of the Sith a flop?

Endur said:
Phantom Menace was the flop, not Revenge of the Sith.

Phantom Menace hurt the Star Wars franchise so badly that both follow-on movies could not recover from the damage that was done.

Lots of people who would have gone to see all three saw Phantom Menace and didn't bother to go see the other two.

Yep, that's the thing. On the momentum of the original trilogy, TPM made a lot of money. But it was a terrible movie and it badly hurt the franchise. RoTS was better, but still not very good. Many people like me, long term SW fans (but not fanatics), went to see it more with a grim determination to see how the whole thing tied together rather than with any sense of joyful anticipation. And, well, it was mostly ok. Better than TPM. Better than Disney's "The Black Hole". Worse than 50% of sf movies over the past 20 years.
 

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I just don't see it, times have changed and movies have changed and it is how you break it down but when a movie makes Worldwide: $750,243,185 - Domestic $370,819,889 - 49.4% of total and overseas $379,423,296 - 50.6%, that is not a flop. http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=starwars3.htm

Other information:
BOM Users' Grades (2005 Releases) - 2
Worldwide Yearly 2005 - 1
Yearly Opening Weekends (Wide) 2005 - 1
All Time Domestic - 9
All Time Adjusted - 56
All Time Worldwide - 18
Yearly 2005 - 1
Opening Day Gross - 1
Theater Average - Opening Weekends - 158
Opening Weekends - 2
Opening Weekends - May 2
Top 4-Day Grosses - 1
Top 5-Day Grosses - 1
Most Weekends at #1 (non-consecutive) - 134
Consecutive Weekends At #1 - 122
Memorial Day 4-Day Holiday Weekends - 7
Second Weekends - 4
Third Weekends - 15
Fourth Weekends - 27
Fifth Weekends - 43
Sixth Weekends - 89
Seventh Weekends - 121
Eighth Weekends - 162
Smallest Drops, 3,000+ theaters (Super-Saturation) - 124
Smallest Drops, 2,500+ theaters (Saturation) - 360
Smallest Drops, 2,000+ theaters (Very Wide) - 647
Smallest Drops, All Wide Releases - 1,938
Widest Releases - 19
Widest Opening Releases - 15
Fastest to $100 million - 1
Fastest to $200 million - 2
Fastest to $300 million - 1
Slowest to $100 million - 292
Slowest to $200 million - 53
 






Since when did anyone think Sith was supposed to pass up Titanic or even Phantom Menace in the first place? The guy's calling Sith a flop for not doing what anyone even expected it to do? WTF?
 

reveal said:
If you're serious, then you, me, and my wife are the only people I've ever known who believe this. :)

Well, I was close to taking Ranger's temp - to see if he was suffering from a feaver. Now I'm wondering about you. Hudson Hawk? Good Lord.

Thinking RotS was bad, I can see that. I don't agree, but I can understand the perspective. Liking HH? I think you've fallen under a Sith mind trick.

And if a movie that grosses something like $700 million, domestic and international, is a flop (when it cost less than 1/4th that to make), what does a movie have to do to be a winner?
 

The writer of this article is NOT grounded in that little thing I like to call reality. Unless the movie cost 375 million to make all by itself, this thing is in no way, stretch, or form a FLOP. In fact, I'm betting it didn't cost over 100 million. Knowing George's ability to cut corners, heck, it may have only cost 75 million or so! :)
 

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