Spoilers Star Trek: Strange New Worlds - Season 3 Viewing (Spoilers)

[Morrus]

So we know this show is going for 4.5 seasons (we're just starting s3, so almost halfway through its entire run).

Do we think it's going to transition into TOS before it ends? We have Kirk, Spock, Uhura, Scotty, Chapel. Still waiting for Sulu, McCoy (and optionally Chekov if they go with the 'he was on the ship in s1, just not on the bridge' explanation of why Khan knows him).

SNW is my favourite Trek for decades, and I'll hate to see it end.

 

[pukunui]

I remain a big fan of SNWs, and the first two episodes were still great.

That said... SNW has maintained a pretty fast pace with its plots in many episodes, and that first one finally crossed the line for me of "too fast".

From the captain needing an answer and getting 3 plots at blazing speed, to La'an literally going "hmm, let me try this"...and then just magiking the data they needed from an alien console....to the "ok we are going to try this one in a thousand chance manuever...oh it worked....oh the big Gorn threat is gone for now". It was all just a biiiiiit too fast even as a SNW fan.

Same with Spock and Chapel figuring out how to save Batel.

I feel like this should have been a two-parter (three if you count last season’s finale). The Gorn were made out to be such a nasty threat, and it feels like they were defeated a little too easily here.

Those binary stars felt a bit too close together as well, but distances in space are so vast that you kinda have to take creative licence with them for TV / movies.

Haven’t watched the second episode yet.

 

[Morrus]

I really didn't understand the binary star Gorn homeworld thing. Was their homeworld between the stars? Was it a portal to their homeworld? I couldn't follow what was going on there at all. Maybe I need to rewatch it.

Also, sickbay in the middle of a battle where there are fires and cables all over the Enterprise is deserted except for one nurse (Chapel) and one patient. No other doctors or nurses, no other patients. Shouldn't sickbay have been kinda.... crowded?

 

[Ryujin]

So we know this show is going for 4.5 seasons (we're just starting s3, so almost halfway through its entire run).

Do we think it's going to transition into TOS before it ends? We have Kirk, Spock, Uhura, Scotty, Chapel. Still waiting for Sulu, McCoy (and optionally Chekov if they go with the 'he was on the ship in s1, just not on the bridge' explanation of why Khan knows him).

SNW is my favourite Trek for decades, and I'll hate to see it end.

I have a feeling that they'll do sort of a hand-off to the TOS crew, at the end of the run. They've played a little fast and loose with the original timeline so they might walk Pike out with the "saving the cadets" incident but that isn't supposed to happen until after he leaves Enterprise, based on what was said in Spock's trial during "The Menagerie."

I really didn't understand the binary star Gorn homeworld thing. Was their homeworld between the stars? Was it a portal to their homeworld? I couldn't follow what was going on there at all. Maybe I need to rewatch it.

Also, sickbay in the middle of a battle where there are fires and cables all over the Enterprise is deserted except for one nurse (Chapel) and one patient. No other doctors or nurses, no other patients. Shouldn't sickbay have been kinda.... crowded?

From what they were saying, it sounded like the Gorn were using the binary system as a sort of gravitic slingshot to their homeworld, whatever that means.

Yeah, it should have been crowded, but perhaps the idea was they were sending teams out to where the injured were? Or maybe the writers just weren't that good, when it came to that sort of thing?

 

[Morrus]

From what they were saying, it sounded like the Gorn were using the binary system as a sort of gravitic slingshot to their homeworld, whatever that means.

Is there another binary star at the other end to fling them back then?

Yeah, it should have been crowded, but perhaps the idea was they were sending teams out to where the injured were? Or maybe the writers just weren't that good, when it came to that sort of thing?

I’m gonna guess it was a budget thing. The episode did feel like it skimped on budget a lot with a lot of tell not show (how did they fight all those Gorn on the big ship? They shot one then it was over). Extras are probably expensive!

 

[pukunui]

Is there another binary star at the other end to fling them back then?

We don’t know because we didn’t see the Gorn homeworld. The Enterprise didn’t follow, and as someone pointed out, the Gorn don’t go in for windows, so it’s not like La’an and co could check either. It was unclear where they were when they fled in the little fighter or whether they made it back to the binary stars or were just communicating with the Enterprise and were then beamed back from somewhere else?

Honestly, the episode was pretty sloppy really. Kinda disappointing. I hope the rest of the season is better.

 

[Ryujin]

Is there another binary star at the other end to fling them back then?

Not mentioned. Wish they had gone through.

I’m gonna guess it was a budget thing. The episode did feel like it skimped on budget a lot with a lot of tell not show (how did they fight all those Gorn on the big ship? They shot one then it was over). Extras are probably expensive!

The studio doesn't look all that expensive, from the outside, but no telling what's in there. I expect lots of green backdrops and, maybe, one of those LCD stages. Around here, extras aren't all that expensive. They should give me a call.

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[Omand]

I really didn't understand the binary star Gorn homeworld thing. Was their homeworld between the stars? Was it a portal to their homeworld? I couldn't follow what was going on there at all. Maybe I need to rewatch it.

Also, sickbay in the middle of a battle where there are fires and cables all over the Enterprise is deserted except for one nurse (Chapel) and one patient. No other doctors or nurses, no other patients. Shouldn't sickbay have been kinda.... crowded?

On the first point, I cannot help you. As others have mentioned it was left unclear. I will say that they kind of left dangling about the other Gorn not in that system? Or were there other Gorn outside that system? What about Parnassus where the colony was. No Gorn left there? But what about all the hatchlings we saw in Part 1?

As to your second point, there was a line of dialogue on the bridge about the colonists being beamed aboard from the Gorn ship and being treated in secondary sick-bay. I know that from the time of TOS there has been discussion/debate/speculation that based upon the size of the Enterprise there must be more than one sickbay space.

I assume that based upon the possibility of a Gorn outbreak on the ship they cleared all non-essential personnel (aka, all but Christine and Spock) from main sickbay and relocated them to the secondary sickbay. You will notice that at the start of the episode there were patients in other bio-beds when Batel is awake and being given initial scans and treatment. But if that was the scenario, it might have added realism if they added a security detail to be there just in case of the Gorn bursting out.

Perhaps something was filmed and cut for time when they did the evacuation?

Cheers

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[Morrus]

The studio doesn't look all that expensive, from the outside,

I mean, the main cost of making a TV show isn't the exterior colour of the studio walls!

 

[Ryujin]

I mean, the main cost of making a TV show isn't the exterior colour of the studio walls!

Sorry if i gave you the impressions that was what I was saying. I was thinking more about the footprint of the building which, while a fair sized warehouse, doesn't feel big by studio standards when you're standing outside of it. Seems that I was right about the LCD wall, as they mentioned the "AR Wall" in one of the Parampunt+ bits on the sets. The car chase from the 21st Century Toronto episode made great use of it (around the 4:20 mark).