Star Wars: reboot/remake?

[Zardnaar]

Gray Jedi

The term Gray Jedi, or Gray, had two meanings. First, it was used by Jedi and Sith to describe Force users who walked the line between the light and dark sides of the Force without surrendering to the dark side, and second, it described Jedi who distanced themselves from the Jedi High Council...

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The first movie was in 1977. This means in 2027 will be the 50th anniversary, and after it's enough time to allow themself a reboot.

We have other option: The prophets and seers who can see the future are canon in SW. This means someones could see different futures, and then Disney could publish a new serie about these "prophets' files" where a group of arcaheologists search a old holocron with the files of these prophets. These files were created by the cooperation of the prophets seing the different possible futures, and telepath reading the mind and sending those mental images to a "holo-scribe", other force-adept with telekinetic powers being used with holograpic technology to "record" those prophecies as 3D movies. This trick would allow to be canon but alter the canon and almost nobody would be angry. An example of alternate timeline would be the galaxy for the age of the Rakata infinity empire being conquered by the yuuzan vong.

* SW is a fabulous franchise, but after the batle of Yavin (the first Deathstar is destroyed) almost all the main events in the galaxy are linked to Skywalker family and company. And jedi may have got too much prominence.

I think it's because of the novel Heir to the Empire in the old EU.

Star Wars was basically dead and it started the revival in the 90s. Everything since owes it's existence to that novel.

It was the sequel to RotJ. It it remained that way for 23 years.

Even now almost 30 years later they've added elements of it back into the new canon.

For example Thrawn. He's a fan favorite shrugs.

 

[Deset Gled]

No grey Jedi. Ever.

Please for the love of the force no grey Jedi.

In all seriousness, why are you so opposed to this? I didn't think this was a common enough thing to need to be specifically excluded.

Putting on my Old Man Hat: Back in my day we called this the Raccoon King.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

In all seriousness, why are you so opposed to this? I didn't think this was a common enough thing to need to be specifically excluded.

Putting on my Old Man Hat: Back in my day we called this the Raccoon King.

It’s a common trope amongst EU fans, to the point where many of them consider it to simply be the truth of the Star Wars galaxy that Grey Jedi are a thing.

I’m opposed to it because it changes, detrimentally, the nature of the Force and of the story being told in Star Wars.

 

[Ryujin]

In all seriousness, why are you so opposed to this? I didn't think this was a common enough thing to need to be specifically excluded.

Putting on my Old Man Hat: Back in my day we called this the Raccoon King.

Just go Grey Lensmen and be done, says I.

 

[Zardnaar]

It’s a common trope amongst EU fans, to the point where many of them consider it to simply be the truth of the Star Wars galaxy that Grey Jedi are a thing.

I’m opposed to it because it changes, detrimentally, the nature of the Force and of the story being told in Star Wars.

Lucas himself may not have used the term but conceptually he used them.

Dooku leaving the order and the Clone Wars cartoon.

And millions played things like Knights of the Old Republic and Jedi Academy games so casuals bought into it as well even if they're oblivious to the rest of the EU.

Those games still have active communities,mod support and YouTube channels.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Lucas himself may not have used the term but conceptually he used them.

Dooku leaving the order and the Clone Wars cartoon.

And millions played things like Knights of the Old Republic and Jedi Academy games so casuals bought into it as well even if they're oblivious to the rest of the EU.

Those games still have active communities,mod support and YouTube channels.

Dooku was never grey, and thankfully KOTOR isn't canon.

There is The Force, and there is the danger of falling to the Dark Side. That's it. Once you've fallen, you might be redeemed, but there isn't a balance between the two. The Force is balanced in the "Light Side", which is in quotations because there is no such thing. The "Light Side" is just the Force, uncorrupted and balanced.

 

[Zardnaar]

Dooku was never grey, and thankfully KOTOR isn't canon.

There is The Force, and there is the danger of falling to the Dark Side. That's it. Once you've fallen, you might be redeemed, but there isn't a balance between the two. The Force is balanced in the "Light Side", which is in quotations because there is no such thing. The "Light Side" is just the Force, uncorrupted and balanced.

Doesn't matter if it's not canon. Millions played it.
Grey Jedi doesn't mean one who uses both sides can also mean one whose left the order

Dooku conceptually was a grey Jedi between leaving the order and joining the Sith.

Ahsoka is also one using that logic. She might also be one official they may have added the term to the new canon I'm not 100% sure in that one.

They also busted out force Lightning, generally seen as a dark side ability.

 

[Ryujin]

Dooku was never grey, and thankfully KOTOR isn't canon.

There is The Force, and there is the danger of falling to the Dark Side. That's it. Once you've fallen, you might be redeemed, but there isn't a balance between the two. The Force is balanced in the "Light Side", which is in quotations because there is no such thing. The "Light Side" is just the Force, uncorrupted and balanced.

And, in the fashion of the films that inspired Lucas, redemption always seems to come at the ultimate price.

 

[doctorbadwolf]

Doesn't matter if it's not canon. Millions played it.
Grey Jedi doesn't mean one who uses both sides can also mean one whose left the order

Dooku conceptually was a grey Jedi between leaving the order and joining the Sith.

Ahsoka is also one using that logic. She might also be one official they may have added the term to the new canon I'm not 100% sure in that one.

They also busted out force Lightning, generally seen as a dark side ability.

You are the only person I've ever seen using grey jedi to mean someone who has left the order.

A grey jedi is, every time the term has actually been used in official material, someone whose "alignment" is in between light and dark.

In canon, thankfully, this is not a thing.

And, in the fashion of the films that inspired Lucas, redemption always seems to come at the ultimate price.

Yep, because those who fall to the dark side are evil, not just on the wrong side of a spectrum.

 

[Zardnaar]

You are the only person I've ever seen using grey jedi to mean someone who has left the order.

A grey jedi is, every time the term has actually been used in official material, someone whose "alignment" is in between light and dark.

In canon, thankfully, this is not a thing.


Yep, because those who fall to the dark side are evil, not just on the wrong side of a spectrum.

Might wanna read the wiki entry on Grey Jedi.

Onscreen both Luke and Rey used dark side type powers (force choke/lightning).

Term might not get used conceptually both definitions have been seen onscreen in the movies and cartoons.

It's just a term so you generally know what someone's talking about. Dark Jedi isn't official either but if someone uses it to refer to Ventress who his a dark Sider using a lightsaber you know what they're talking about.