Be interested to know if they are also leaving the site and where they are going?
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Lanefan
Victoria Rules
This.
Find an alternative to using PayPal (or any other similar middleman) and I'll subscribe in a heartbeat.
Another idea might be to have it such that the ENWorld booth at GenCon can collect cash subscription payments (or plain ol' donations) in person.
Lan-"or I can send cash"-efan
Alan Shutko
Explorer
There was the month of June which had no subscriber content. I didn't cancel, but I wondered if the content had ended. July has had a good amount of content and isn't over yet, making up for it.
It might be a good idea to plan on spreading things out more.
It might be a good idea to plan on spreading things out more.
JoeGKushner
Adventurer
Looks like between the end of May and the start of July there was no new subscribers content.
People want something other than the ability to post to a forum for their money. If they don't think that they'll be getting the goods as they did when they first started... perhaps things wind down.
En World needs more original content in that section too. The Kobold bits aren't that useful for example, to someone who subscribes to that fine periodical.
People want something other than the ability to post to a forum for their money. If they don't think that they'll be getting the goods as they did when they first started... perhaps things wind down.
En World needs more original content in that section too. The Kobold bits aren't that useful for example, to someone who subscribes to that fine periodical.
kaomera
Explorer
My existing subscription expires in August. At this point I won't be re-subscribing. If I keep using the site I will most likely donate the $3 (at least) each month, but a recurring subscription is a deal-breaker for me.
And that's if I keep using the site. Honestly all this new stuff just frustrates me. I come here for the message board. I've looked at the subscriber content, but none of it is really anything I'd ever have a use for. And the do-dads all over (how long are we going to have an ad for twitter up there?) just make the message board less fun, for me. If there was (or is, maybe I'm just missing something) a way to turn a lot of the extra bits and stuff off, that would be an incentive.
And that's if I keep using the site. Honestly all this new stuff just frustrates me. I come here for the message board. I've looked at the subscriber content, but none of it is really anything I'd ever have a use for. And the do-dads all over (how long are we going to have an ad for twitter up there?) just make the message board less fun, for me. If there was (or is, maybe I'm just missing something) a way to turn a lot of the extra bits and stuff off, that would be an incentive.
pawsplay
Hero
I remain a supporter because I want the community to continue. However, I don't play 4e, which makes a lot of the free content less fascinating. Also, I find the social networking stuff a real turn-off. I wonder if some of the unsubscribers feel similarly. Just some thoughts.
The main reason I am here as opposed to, say, Paizo.com is because of the full messageboard functionality and the community of game system tinkerers. There are a lot more PAthfinder players on paizo.com and more GURPS players on sjgames.com, for instance, but posting on an official forum is not and just cannot be the same. If ENWorld went under, I would start looking for the next best thing, whether it's a new board on Yuku or a mass migration to someone's other board.
I would consider my subscription justified each month if the forums were made very freelancer/semi-pro friendly. A ton of industry people post here, and the extent to which ENWorld facilitates interactions between the pros and the wannabes, it offers something exceptional.
The main reason I am here as opposed to, say, Paizo.com is because of the full messageboard functionality and the community of game system tinkerers. There are a lot more PAthfinder players on paizo.com and more GURPS players on sjgames.com, for instance, but posting on an official forum is not and just cannot be the same. If ENWorld went under, I would start looking for the next best thing, whether it's a new board on Yuku or a mass migration to someone's other board.
I would consider my subscription justified each month if the forums were made very freelancer/semi-pro friendly. A ton of industry people post here, and the extent to which ENWorld facilitates interactions between the pros and the wannabes, it offers something exceptional.
Mouseferatu
Hero
In my case, it's purely financial. (I didn't cancel, exactly, but I didn't re-up when my previous yearly subscription ran out.) I intend to re-up in the future, when things steady, but right now, the idea of putting any recurring charge on my card, no matter how small, makes me nervous.
Which leads me to point two... I understand the reasons you went "monthly only," I really do. But I'm still far more comfortable paying one lump sum for a year and being done with it. It's not a deal-breaker for me, but I can see how it would be for some people.
But again, that's more a "Why aren't people subscribing?" issue than a "Why are they canceling?" issue. And ultimately, I'm not sure what the answer is.
Which leads me to point two... I understand the reasons you went "monthly only," I really do. But I'm still far more comfortable paying one lump sum for a year and being done with it. It's not a deal-breaker for me, but I can see how it would be for some people.
But again, that's more a "Why aren't people subscribing?" issue than a "Why are they canceling?" issue. And ultimately, I'm not sure what the answer is.
Herremann the Wise
First Post
Hi Russel,
I'm sorry to hear of subscription drop offs. I wonder how many people are in the same boat as me:
- I loved this site!
- Now I don't visit it as much sometimes for quite long inactive periods.
- I will maintain my subscription more out of respect for the site, those who run it, those who used to be here (and a few who still are), and what it has given me over the years than for the download content provided.
- In fact I don't think I have downloaded a single thing with my subscription.
- 4e has slowly ground my interest in "D&D" to a minimal amount. I most likely spend more time on the paizo boards than here (specifically in their adventure path sections: Age of Worms, Rise of the Runelords, Kingmaker...) as that has been my specific interest in terms of my own DMing.
- I still play in a 4e campaign twice a month and maintain a DDI account.
- My interest in "General" RPG discussion has waned co-inciding with the new edition. I don't particularly like 4e, half my gaming group refuse to play it and thus my enthusiasm for discussing more general matters has fallen to zero unless it is an opportunity for me to have a gripe about my situation. In effect, I feel like I have very little in common with many of the new posters on this site, thus I don't visit as much, thus EN World is becoming less and less relevant to my gaming habits and interests.
- If I was in a position where I had to cut back on my spending, or worry about paypal or credit card stuff, then pulling my subscription would enter my head. If I had not been on or supported this site for so long, then the decision might be easier. If I did not have as much respect for the moderators, owners that EN World has, or the fellowship that it had, then again, it would be an easier decision. If the designers of D&D further smash it into irrelevance for me, then that too would make the decision easier.
- Essentially I have no interest in subscriber content, and my continued subscription to EN World will not be affected by what content is there.
- I plan to keep my subscription until the site is closed (something which I don't think will ever happen).
Best Regards
Herremann the Wise
I'm sorry to hear of subscription drop offs. I wonder how many people are in the same boat as me:
- I loved this site!
- Now I don't visit it as much sometimes for quite long inactive periods.
- I will maintain my subscription more out of respect for the site, those who run it, those who used to be here (and a few who still are), and what it has given me over the years than for the download content provided.
- In fact I don't think I have downloaded a single thing with my subscription.
- 4e has slowly ground my interest in "D&D" to a minimal amount. I most likely spend more time on the paizo boards than here (specifically in their adventure path sections: Age of Worms, Rise of the Runelords, Kingmaker...) as that has been my specific interest in terms of my own DMing.
- I still play in a 4e campaign twice a month and maintain a DDI account.
- My interest in "General" RPG discussion has waned co-inciding with the new edition. I don't particularly like 4e, half my gaming group refuse to play it and thus my enthusiasm for discussing more general matters has fallen to zero unless it is an opportunity for me to have a gripe about my situation. In effect, I feel like I have very little in common with many of the new posters on this site, thus I don't visit as much, thus EN World is becoming less and less relevant to my gaming habits and interests.
- If I was in a position where I had to cut back on my spending, or worry about paypal or credit card stuff, then pulling my subscription would enter my head. If I had not been on or supported this site for so long, then the decision might be easier. If I did not have as much respect for the moderators, owners that EN World has, or the fellowship that it had, then again, it would be an easier decision. If the designers of D&D further smash it into irrelevance for me, then that too would make the decision easier.
- Essentially I have no interest in subscriber content, and my continued subscription to EN World will not be affected by what content is there.
- I plan to keep my subscription until the site is closed (something which I don't think will ever happen).
Best Regards
Herremann the Wise
Festivus
First Post
I think I am in the same boat as Ari. I have been enduring an 8% pay cut at work, and we had just bought our house a year before... so almost everything that was luxury went out of the budget. Thankfully I get most of my D&D books for free, but that involves a lot of extra work on my part at the FLGS to drum up business for them.
Pay wise, I would prefer a lump sum subscription like you can get with DDI, with discounts for longer term subscriptions. e.g. $3 a month, or $30 for a year, or $45 for two years, etc... whatever it is but monthly is almost never an option I go for. I bought DDI when it was cheap for as many years as they would let me, and I usually do the same with paper magazines that I really like.
Pay wise, I would prefer a lump sum subscription like you can get with DDI, with discounts for longer term subscriptions. e.g. $3 a month, or $30 for a year, or $45 for two years, etc... whatever it is but monthly is almost never an option I go for. I bought DDI when it was cheap for as many years as they would let me, and I usually do the same with paper magazines that I really like.
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