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kenjib said:
I have to agree with an earlier comment that the iconics have detracted from the inspirational quality of the artwork in the book, and it really ties into this statement. Even when there are adventurous images, all of the motion lies in what they are doing rather than the mystery of who they are, what they are thinking, and why they are doing what they are doing (which is really what makes Emiricol the Chaotic such a good picture).

Unfortunately, the iconics are valuable branding/marketing tools. While I don't think it was intentional, I think we are seeing a loss of inspiration to serve marketing purposes. 3e has had, overall, an amazing slick marketting machine far beyond industry standards to date.

You just nailed it. I liked the mysterious feeling one would get from much of the 1E art. It was just there, often without much explanation. A small scene in some shadowed dungeon or lowly field on a windswept plain. Like some rough sketch made of a real event, one long forgotten, you would look at it and try and determine what they were thinking, what was happening? It really captured the imagination - something you can't do where you just have cartoonish looking (sometimes by style, sometimes by content - lots of buckles and spikes in armor being the proverbial example) iconic looking straight at you in a portrait that makes it clear the only thoughts involved are "look at me, I'm a cool iconic." There just isn't any mystery there. There isn't anything to capture the imagination in quite the way you could where there are so many questions left unanswered in a scenic artwork (as opposed to a portrait). Perhaps that is the big distinction - the 1E books had many "scenes" of indeterminate nature while 3E just has lots of illustrations / portraits. The style just makes it that much less palatable to me.
 

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evildm said:
The place you'll find the most anime art in D&D right now is in Dungeon and Dragon mags, because these guys have been doing illustrations: http://www.weewung.com/, and frankly, I think they're really talented artists.
Me, too. The last few issues of Dungeon have rocked, art-wise, IMHO. And they have plenty of evocative scenes, e.g, the halflings posting the circus poster in the latest (108 or 109). I wish the books I pay $34.95 could look as good as these magazines that I pay $7.00 for. :)
 

Altalazar said:
You just nailed it. I liked the mysterious feeling one would get from much of the 1E art. It was just there, often without much explanation. A small scene in some shadowed dungeon or lowly field on a windswept plain.
Altalazar, I sincerely hope you're not trying to argue that a picture of a frikkin' field is a better addition to a D&D book than what we have today. :confused:
 

buzz said:
Me, too. The last few issues of Dungeon have rocked, art-wise, IMHO. And they have plenty of evocative scenes, e.g, the halflings posting the circus poster in the latest (108 or 109). I wish the books I pay $34.95 could look as good as these magazines that I pay $7.00 for. :)

Rebecca Guay (sp?) and those four Asian guys that are doing all of the art in Dungeon these days was what I was alluding to by the anime comment.

Anime sucks. Keep it out of D&D.

It seems that D&D is designed for kids that like this sort of cartoon crap . . . ridiculously huge swords, and disproportionate everything!

The art, the miniatures, and the 3.$ moneygrab are the three reasons I left D&D.
 
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You guys might like to take a peek at this:

The Secord Files: Top 10 Greatest Pieces of 1st Edition Art
http://www.fierydragon.com/DB/DB_JUL09_2003.htm

Me? I like Elmore (his skies are breathtaking), Parkinson (the original ToEE cover, Lord Soth's Charge), DiTerlizzi (loved Planescape), Brom (ditto on Dark Sun), Todd Lockwood, Sam Wood and Wayne Reynolds.
 

Jody Butt said:
Rebecca Guay (sp?) and those four Asian guys that are doing all of the art in Dungeon these days was what I was alluding to by the anime comment.

Anime sucks. Keep it out of D&D.

It seems that D&D is designed for kids that like this sort of cartoon crap . . . ridiculously huge swords, and disproportionate everything!

The art, the miniatures, and the 3.$ moneygrab are the three reasons I left D&D.

Anime>You

Nah, just playing. I have nothing else to do but wonder the forums. :)
 




Joshua Dyal said:
For most of those, I really have to wonder why they are considered great, classic works of D&D art. I don't like many of them at all. :p
I'd go with "great" on all but #3. The ink job was not done well. Should have gone the charcoal route.
The choice of word "greatest" is definitely subjective.
 

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