catsclaw227
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And since I am an Amazon Prime customer, I got 20GB for free. As well as a TON of TV shows and movies.
the tablet war is heating up
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And since I am an Amazon Prime customer, I got 20GB for free. As well as a TON of TV shows and movies.
falcarrion
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I may not be happy with the whole ripped cd thing. but there is alot more to the icloud then just music.
1. there is photo streaming. Take a pic on the iphone, and it automaticly loads on the cloud and is pushed to your other iOS devices and your computer automaticly. These photos do not count against your 5g.
2. Apps are backedup and pushed to your devices automaticly.
3.contacts same thing.
4. calenders. automaticly updates and pushes to other devices.
Basicly it is docs, backups, and mail that chews ups the 5g.
Stuff you purchase from Itunes is free.
1. there is photo streaming. Take a pic on the iphone, and it automaticly loads on the cloud and is pushed to your other iOS devices and your computer automaticly. These photos do not count against your 5g.
2. Apps are backedup and pushed to your devices automaticly.
3.contacts same thing.
4. calenders. automaticly updates and pushes to other devices.
Basicly it is docs, backups, and mail that chews ups the 5g.
Stuff you purchase from Itunes is free.
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Fast Learner
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Right. Apple also gives you 5GB free, though because they actually made deals with the record labels, you can't store ripped music in it. $25 at Apple gives you unlimited storage. Google has announced that they will charge for the extra space, they just haven't announced how much, and Amazon's is, obviously, more expensive once you go over 25GB. And you don't have to upload most of your music with Apple: higher quality versions are already there.
The real trick will be this: the record labels will sue the hell out of Google and Amazon, and their programs will radically change.
On the 5GB that's free from Apple, in addition to the things falcarrion listed, it will also be used by 3rd party apps to perfectly sync their state. As examples:
You're playing Angry Birds on your iPhone and you pause as you get off the bus. You walk into your home and sit down at your laptop or desktop computer and when you launch Angry Birds it's paused at the exact same place, with the same score and status and all, where you continue playing. After a few levels you pause it again and later that night while watching a boring tv show you pick up your iPad and launch Angry Birds again where it's paused at the same place you left it at earlier.
Or you're editing a word processing document on your laptop; you've made a variety of changes and have some text selected when you have to leave. The next day on a desktop computer at work you open the file from the could and not only is it scrolled to the same place and the same text is highlighted, but the Undo command steps you back through changes you made on the laptop the day before. Later that night you open it on your iPad and poof, same thing.
It's a lot more than a place to store some music, or even store some files.
Fast Learner
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Of note, anything you buy or have ever bought from iTunes doesn't count against the 5GB, nor do any of your photos.
Relique du Madde
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You are assuming that Google and Amazon won't use their collective powers (via search manipulation and direct sales) to force the record/movie companies to come to reasonable terms especially since they already have previous agreements with those companies.
Those type of cloud services already exist on individual apps on the Android and the iOS.
However, I don't see Google doing that soon with all their apps for one reason:
Misc. Anti-Google Privacy Activists/Advocate said:
It seriously boggles my mind how Apple, Microsoft, Facebook and everyone lese get's the pass at doing things that Google would get trolled on for doing.
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Relique du Madde
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Yeah, but those photos are routinely deleted to make more space.
Fast Learner
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I assume that Google and Amazon will end up paying the record labels, which means they'll charge you. Not sure there are any scenarios where the record labels say, "Apple's paying us for the rights, but we're totally fine with you guys not paying us." Apple sells way, way more music than everyone else combined, so if they can't get away with -- potentially -- people storing their pirated music on the company's cloud servers without compensating the labels for it, you can be sure the smaller guys won't.
Indeed. It's the system-wide low-level no-additional-service-required (e.g. Dropbox or others) nature of the system that I find exciting. Without violating my NDA, suffice it to say that said syncing is no more difficult than saving a file locally.
Yeah, not sure what to say other that "sucks to be Google," I guess. Though Facebook gets similar wailing, and Apple went through a big round of it a month ago.
Only from your mobile devices, not from any laptops or desktops, and not from your mobile devices if you simply group them in an album on the device. Only the last 1,000 "loose" photos have the FIFO deletion.
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well, we'll see how useful iCloud will be.
The majority of my music is 50GB of my ripped CDs. Apple can't help me there, I still need iTunes and my NAS.
I'm not interested in streaming my music to my player. That's a waste of bandwidth (given how U-Verse wants to cap usage and charge for overage and the carriers new data plans have limits).
Having my music digitally registered in a Digital Vault (sony's working on some such thing), and being able to restore it to a device (or swap out songs) would be useful, in that it puts the onus on them to store it, not me.
I'm suprised Google never released a Google Docs app, as that inherently would have been doing the cloud thing.
As far as privacy concerns, Google gets nailed because people are surprised at the myriad ways Google is able to mine and use your data that aren't obvious to a lay-person who thinks "they're just a search engine"
FaceBook has never been about privacy, and everybody has drunk the cool-aid that your putting your private information into a public facing machine. Heck, the whole nature of it is to share your private thoughts with everybody you know.
I'll have to read more details about iCloud. At the moment, I'm not seeing how its going to solve any problems for me.
The majority of my music is 50GB of my ripped CDs. Apple can't help me there, I still need iTunes and my NAS.
I'm not interested in streaming my music to my player. That's a waste of bandwidth (given how U-Verse wants to cap usage and charge for overage and the carriers new data plans have limits).
Having my music digitally registered in a Digital Vault (sony's working on some such thing), and being able to restore it to a device (or swap out songs) would be useful, in that it puts the onus on them to store it, not me.
I'm suprised Google never released a Google Docs app, as that inherently would have been doing the cloud thing.
As far as privacy concerns, Google gets nailed because people are surprised at the myriad ways Google is able to mine and use your data that aren't obvious to a lay-person who thinks "they're just a search engine"
FaceBook has never been about privacy, and everybody has drunk the cool-aid that your putting your private information into a public facing machine. Heck, the whole nature of it is to share your private thoughts with everybody you know.
I'll have to read more details about iCloud. At the moment, I'm not seeing how its going to solve any problems for me.
falcarrion
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when iOS5 is release, the usefulness of Icloud may become more aperent.
Once iOS5 is released you never have to sync with a computer again. All the info on your iOS device is stored on the icloud.
Lets say you buy a new iphone. you type your apple acount info in and all your stuff load automaticly on your new phone.
Once iOS5 is released you never have to sync with a computer again. All the info on your iOS device is stored on the icloud.
Lets say you buy a new iphone. you type your apple acount info in and all your stuff load automaticly on your new phone.
falcarrion
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Lets talk about memory for a moment.
If you have the following you will get 13gb of free cloud storage.
Dropbox 3gb
netbox 5gb
icloud 5gb
not bad for free.
I could down load a file from drop box to my Ipad.
with the Icloud it is now on my iphone, Ipad and itouch.
I can then make changes to it on any of the devices and the changes are saved on all at the same time. I then can load it back into dropbox.
and if I want to I can remove it from the icloud.
If you have the following you will get 13gb of free cloud storage.
Dropbox 3gb
netbox 5gb
icloud 5gb
not bad for free.
I could down load a file from drop box to my Ipad.
with the Icloud it is now on my iphone, Ipad and itouch.
I can then make changes to it on any of the devices and the changes are saved on all at the same time. I then can load it back into dropbox.
and if I want to I can remove it from the icloud.
