D&D (2024) Treantmonk's Ranger DPS video:

Horwath

Legend

"well, hack my legs off and call me shorty!"

who would have thought that by chaining a class to a 1st level spell, it's damage will suck...

and rangers damage is good in t1, exactly where HM can make a difference by taxing your concentration slot. Rest? that will require more MacGyvering(exploiting)
 

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Tier 1 and 2 they are totally ok, even with the not very damage oriented build he does.
On reddit someone already tried a bit harder with relatable math behind it.

Tier 3 and 4 removing concentration at level 13 might have done the trick for single target damage. Especially when the capstone and level 11 abilities only buff this spell.

With removed concentration on level 13, the single target damage would be exactly on par woth other classes.

If you look at area damage though, ranger brings way more to the table than a rogue...
And this is not something treantmonk looks at in those videos, what he explicitely states more than once.
 

Zardnaar

Legend
Tier 1 and 2 they are totally ok, even with the not very damage oriented build he does.
On reddit someone already tried a bit harder with relatable math behind it.

Tier 3 and 4 removing concentration at level 13 might have done the trick for single target damage. Especially when the capstone and level 11 abilities only buff this spell.

With removed concentration on level 13, the single target damage would be exactly on par woth other classes.

If you look at area damage though, ranger brings way more to the table than a rogue...
And this is not something treantmonk looks at in those videos, what he explicitely states more than once.

Yeah and the ranger is better off as an archer as well. At least it was in 2014, 2024 not sure. Alot of Rangers power is added via subclass relative as well.

Even if it's behind on damage it depends on how much and does the rest of its abilities compensatefor that.

Monks also a poor baseline as it's the leading contender now for most damage.
 


SailorNash

Explorer
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Zardnaar

Legend
Leading contender is Barbarian, followed closely by Fighter. Monks do well though.

More around level 11. Dual wielding,two attacks bonys action and your weapons scaling up into monk dice.

Barbarians also a monster in melee. Things lije Gloomstaljer are way better with bow and ranger has AoE abilities.

2024 bow use may be weak as well.
 

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