TSR TSR (2) Confirms TSR (3)'s Acquisition of Trademark (Updated!)

Jayson Elliot registered the TSR trademark back in 2011 and used it to launch Gygax Magazine along with Ernie and Luke Gygax. The two Gygax's left the company a few years later after Gary Gygax's (co-founder of TSR (1) back in the 1970s) widow, Gail Gygax, forced the closure of Gygax Magazine. Then, earlier this year, TSR (3) swooped in on the TSR trademark, after Jayson Elliot accidentally...

Jayson Elliot registered the TSR trademark back in 2011 and used it to launch Gygax Magazine along with Ernie and Luke Gygax. The two Gygax's left the company a few years later after Gary Gygax's (co-founder of TSR (1) back in the 1970s) widow, Gail Gygax, forced the closure of Gygax Magazine. Then, earlier this year, TSR (3) swooped in on the TSR trademark, after Jayson Elliot accidentally let it lapse, as TSR (2) confirms:

We have owned the TSR trademark since 2011. Last year, we missed a filing date, and another company registered it, though we are still using it in commerce. While we could win a lawsuit, we frankly don't have the money to litigate. So, we're licensing it back from them.

As a result, there are two companies now using the name TSR. You can tell when it's us because we're the only ones using the new logo.

They're opening a museum in Lake Geneva at the old TSR house, and we wish them success with it, it's important to celebrate the legacy that Gary Gygax created.


Ernie Gygax, formerly of TSR (1) under Gary Gygax, then working with Jayson Elliot as part of TSR (2), is one of the founders of of TSR (3), and confirmed in his (now infamous) interview --

The other TSR is a licensee because [Jayson Elliot] let it lapse. But he had absolutely ... love for the game and the products. There was no reason to say 'oh you've screwed up, oh it's all ours, ha ha ha ha!' Instead, Justin [LaNasa] came to him and said ... we love that you're doing Top Secret things, we have a much broader goal for the whole thing. But there's no reason for you to stop or even have any troubles. Justin said, I'll take care of the paperwork, you just give me $10 a year, and you put out all this love for old school gaming that you can. And we appreciate that you were there to try and pick up things, and you produced Gygax Magazine, for in its time that you're also working on a game that you love to play ... because Top Secret was Jayson's love, as a young man.


TSR (2), still run by Jayson Elliot, publishes Top Secret, and is not connected to TSR (3) other than now having to license it’s own name from them. TSR (3) has also registered the trademark to Star Frontiers, a game owned by and still currently sold by D&D-owner WotC.

In other news the GYGAX trademark appears to have lapsed.


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UPDATE! TSR (2) has decided NOT to license its own name from TSR (3):

Update to our earlier tweet - we will NOT be licensing anything from the new company claiming rights to the TSR logos. We are not working with them in any fashion.
 

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RFB Dan

Podcast host, 6-edition DM, and guy with a pulse.
Is that the same Varg as Varg Vikernes from MyFaRoG? I though he was still in prison doing hateful stuff?!

Throw in RPGpundit and some of the ol' OSR crew and you got the whole gang!

Wow....
The picture doesn't look like Varg, but who knows. For those who don't know, Varg Vikernes is the guy behind the black metal band Burzum. He was also in Mayhem until he murdered his bandmate Euronymous. He's been linked to church burnings and neo-nazis. So I hope that's not him.
 


The picture doesn't look like Varg, but who knows. For those who don't know, Varg Vikernes is the guy behind the black metal band Burzum. He was also in Mayhem until he murdered his bandmate Euronymous. He's been linked to church burnings and neo-nazis. So I hope that's not him.
Might be an alt he uses to try and sneak into the wider hobby. I vaguely remember hearing about Varg coming back to Twitter under the handle in the screenshot. Might have been a month ago?
 


RFB Dan

Podcast host, 6-edition DM, and guy with a pulse.
Might be an alt he uses to try and sneak into the wider hobby. I vaguely remember hearing about Varg coming back to Twitter under the handle in the screenshot. Might have been a month ago?
I wouldn't put it past him. He's not the kind of person I would want to represent my hobby. Or my music; but I never liked Burzum anyway. I prefer my metal nazi-free. :p
 

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