Enchantress
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Flexor the Mighty! said:
Yeah, one of those innocent little kids who burn insects and bash in cats' heads......His parents must have been so proud. :\
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Yeah, one of those innocent little kids who burn insects and bash in cats' heads......His parents must have been so proud. :\
Mouseferatu
Hero
I don't think anyone's saying Annakin should have been an evil child. Or that the movie should have begun with Annakin already evil.
The problem is, making him a child didn't do anything except ruin many people's suspension of disbelief. Luke was young when he started, but he wasn't that young. I found not only the acting, but the character, of Annakin as a 9-year-old to be awful.
Lucas' original idea was to have Annakin start at 13 or so. I think that would have made the whole pod-racer thing far more believable, and would have likely included better acting.
The problem is, making him a child didn't do anything except ruin many people's suspension of disbelief. Luke was young when he started, but he wasn't that young. I found not only the acting, but the character, of Annakin as a 9-year-old to be awful.
Lucas' original idea was to have Annakin start at 13 or so. I think that would have made the whole pod-racer thing far more believable, and would have likely included better acting.
Enchantress
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Mouseferatu said:
Give the kid a break, he was only eight or so when they filmed it. Besides, he had some pretty big shoes to fill, not just for a kid but for anyone. Personally, I think that Hayden Christiansen's acting is far too cheezy for the all important role of Darth Vader, but that's just me.
Mouseferatu
Hero
Enchantress said:
Oh, I don't expect all that much from an actor that age. OTOH, I expect better than Jake Loyd did. (Witness Haley Joel Osmont from The Sixth Sense.)
It doesn't help, of course, that they had pretty crappy scripts to work from. Even Ewan McGregor and Natalie Portman haven't been able to do a lot with some of the scenes in the Episodes 1 and 2.
But my point is, there was no need for age to even have been an issue. The tragedy of Darth Vader was never about an innocent kid turning evil. It was about a powerful (and generally good) Jedi turning evil. I personally feel the series would have been a lot stronger if Annakin had been older when they found him, and actually begun training as a Jedi before the end of the first movie. The second could then have devoted much more to the beginnings of his fall, and the third to the culmination of it.
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Mouseferatu
Hero
Hmm...
So as not to come off sounding too harsh, I should mention that I am still looking forward to episode 3, and I'm still a huge fan of the original trilogy. Episodes 1 and 2 weren't horrible movies, I just feel they just were far and away below the quality of the first trilogy.
So as not to come off sounding too harsh, I should mention that I am still looking forward to episode 3, and I'm still a huge fan of the original trilogy. Episodes 1 and 2 weren't horrible movies, I just feel they just were far and away below the quality of the first trilogy.
Kaleon Moonshae
When TrueNight falls
Enchantress said:
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Actually most historians I have read agree that Hitler was a pretty normal guy until just after his trip to paris where he began to go crazy and begin his whole downward spiral. If Hitler had died shortly after the picture of him standing on the bridge in paris the world may have looked upon him as a visionary... makes you wonder sometimes... how many of our own visonaries were just Hitlers in waiting? brrrrrr
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I agree that the annie as a kid idea was a little trite. It made the first movie almost unbelievable and destroyed the versimilitude for me. It should have revolved around a teenage jedi in training then headed itno the love affair and first questionings of the code and then finally into the transformation into the sith lord.
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Klaus
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I'm also of the opinion that Anakin (no "Annie", pleeeeease) should've been a bit older in Episode 1. He should've been 14 or so (maybe 16, which was the official age of Luke in Episode 4), puberty kicking in and the whole addiciton to speed starting to show (and THEN we'd see the galaxy's best pilot in the making... not "woooo-hooo").
Kaleon Moonshae
When TrueNight falls
Klaus said:
That would be Anakin, the way it was, I'm sorry but Annie is the only thing that fits. I kept expecting him to pull out a teddy bear and cry.
CrusaderX
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Flexor the Mighty! said:
I'm not a hater. I just don't think it was necessary to show Anakin as a little kid. We didn't need to see Han, Luke, and Leia as little kids.
The prequel story could have been about a young man looking for his destiny, ala Luke looking for his destiny in A New Hope. Luke didn't need to be 8 years old in Episode IV to portray this theme.
Darth K'Trava
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Mercule said:
Probably by calling him "toothpick" all the time......
