D&D 5E Damage on a missed attack roll

[Ashrym]

Decisive Attack
When you make a melee weapon attack on your turn, you can expend one superiority die to deal an extra X damage to the target. If you miss, the target still takes this extra die of damage.

I'll quibble that it doesn't sound decisive, at all. And as a pure DPR benefit, it'd have to stack up to precision strike.

But it's a reasonable sort of idea.

When I first saw it I also thought it wouldn't compete with precision strike. I'm thinking more like this:

Decisive Attack
When you make a melee weapon attack on your turn and spend one superiority die on that attack, you can expend one additional superiority die. The target takes this extra die of damage and the affect of the first maneuver regardless of whether the attack hits or misses.

It's a specific exception to the one maneuver per attack rule, but it costs an additional maneuver known plus gives something interesting.

 

[Garthanos]

It's a specific exception to the one maneuver per attack rule, but it costs an additional maneuver known plus gives something interesting.

the idea of expanding multiple attacks or multiple maneuver/superiority dice were floated during play test.

 

[Tony Vargas]

When I first saw it I also thought it wouldn't compete with precision strike. I'm thinking more like this:

Decisive Attack
When you make a melee weapon attack on your turn and spend one superiority die on that attack, you can expend one additional superiority die. The target takes this extra die of damage and the affect of the first maneuver regardless of whether the attack hits or misses.

It's a specific exception to the one maneuver per attack rule, but it costs an additional maneuver known plus gives something interesting.

That does sound more decisive.

 

[Garthanos]

That does sound more decisive.

sounds a bit expensive but you really do need to DECIDE you want it eh

 

[Ashrym]

sounds a bit expensive but you really do need to DECIDE you want it eh

No more expensive than blowing dice on a multiple attack nova. It's actually less that that. This is more in line with other maneuvers, imo.

And I do blow dice on nova's.

 

[TheCosmicKid]

I'll quibble that it doesn't sound decisive, at all. And as a pure DPR benefit, it'd have to stack up to precision strike.

But it's a reasonable sort of idea.

"Decisive" sounds just fine to me. It's very useful for guaranteeing damage to finish off badly injured targets and mooks. That's a property beyond mere DPR math (although Precision Strike is also good in the same circumstance).

 

[Garthanos]

And I do blow dice on nova's.

Can't let Paladins have all the nova fun you say?

 

[Ashrym]

Can't let Paladins have all the nova fun you say?

pfft…. battle masters do it at range with a bow.

just not with that suggested manuever

 

[Garthanos]

just not with that suggested manuever

There was a hunter maneuver in 4e ... that allowed one to kick out a snapshot volley... which attacked multiple enemies in a 15x15 area. up to 9, i thought it needed an option to focus fire those where one of the damn things was bound to hit (they are all weak attacks and it may be that multiple hit on a good roll and only 1 on poor roll. Damage on a miss might represent such a volley focus fired.

 

[Garthanos]

In other words it wouldn't have to be limited to a melee attack to have a blur of hard to stop wicked jabs. (but you might go through a lot of ammo)