D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

[Zardnaar]

I think the fact that bad action franchise films can score such big bucks is a contrast to art house films. Film D'Auteur have to be good to net a large return and are almost entirely unknown if bad. So, action films in comparison have a much larger gulf between the good ones and the bad ones. I mean, you just insinuated that Highlander 2 and Robocop 3 are bad, but there is much worse out there. To me, those films are already the bottom. Critics have to weigh Lord of the Rings against Your Highness or Star Wars against Pluto Nash. The action genre is packed with examples at all ranges of the critical spectrum. You cant simply say I really like emo-goth vampires better than Supers. I mean, subjectively you certainly can, but objectively you have to measure the films on their execution as well to make a fair assessment. I don't think you are doing this, and certainly don't appreciate that critics have to.

Well Highlander 2 has become a punching bag for bad films but I remember watching worse and apparently the made for TV Steven Seagal movies are terrible.

I was 22 or 23 when original F&F came out. I knew some younger boy racer types who absolutely loved it. I didn't see it on its original run but the first was a lot better than expected..

Its more aimed at a specific audience vs bad its like the rom com genres stereotype fan base. There's bad movies like Highlander 2 then there's stuff aimed at specific audiences that you'll probably hate if you're not part of that audience.

Critics tastes lean heavily towards specific genres and the cocktail and wine crown in LA vs rest of country let alone world.

Plenty of critical darlings flop because they don't resonate with wider audiences. IDK of a D&D movie will but thus thread us purely about the box office not critic scores or if you personally liked the movie or not.

It could easily be a critical darling and flop or get middling scores and be a smash hit idk.

They go on about D&Ds diversity but from what I'm seeing they've only expanded it certain demographic it still leans heavily into college educated types here that's 25% of the population.

 

[payn]

Well Highlander 2 has become a punching bag for bad films but I remember watching worse and apparently the made for TV Steven Seagal movies are terrible.

I was 22 or 23 when original F&F came out. I knew some younger boy racer types who absolutely loved it. I didn't see it on its original run but the first was a lot better than expected..

Its more aimed at a specific audience vs bad its like the rom com genres stereotype fan base. There's bad movies like Highlander 2 then there's stuff aimed at specific audiences that you'll probably hate if you're not part of that audience.

Critics tastes lean heavily towards specific genres and the cocktail and wine crown in LA vs rest of country let alone world.

Plenty of critical darlings flop because they don't resonate with wider audiences. IDK of a D&D movie will but thus thread us purely about the box office not critic scores or if you personally liked the movie or not.

It could easily be a critical darling and flop or get middling scores and be a smash hit idk.

They go on about D&Ds diversity but from what I'm seeing they've only expanded it certain demographic it still leans heavily into college educated types here that's 25% of the population.

I think its much closer than you think. Critic scores are often only about 5-10% lower than general audience scores. Obviously, you are going to have cult elements that rate things much higher just because it exists due to particular taste. I dont think that demonstrates a general divide so conclusively. In fact, the "critics dont get it" is just a meme of itself.

 

[Zardnaar]

I think its much closer than you think. Critic scores are often only about 5-10% lower than general audience scores. Obviously, you are going to have cult elements that rate things much higher just because it exists due to particular taste. I dont think that demonstrates a general divide so conclusively. In fact, the "critics dont get it" is just a meme of itself.

As I said I use imdb more as it's more nuance and I prefer a 1-10 or % based rating vs thumbs up or down.

I'll thumbs up anything over 51% but others will do below 75%.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

I don't mind wrestling in small doses. Old WCW could be good, NXT was really good WWE been a bit meh for a while (havent seen post (2020)but would watch AEW if it was easily available.

But yeah various B movies are worse than Highlander 2. Steven Seagal made for TV movies are notoriously terrible but he has only done 1-3 ok action movies.

I like the first F&F movie boyvracer types I knew loved it.

i loved Under Seige.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

back on topic I say hit even more now after the last trailer.

 

[Zardnaar]

i loved Under Seige.

Yeah he had 2-3 decent action movies early 90's.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

back on topic I say hit even more now after the last trailer.

It was an exceptionally good trailer.

 

[OB1]

One of my players is going to a press screening of the movie tonight (sadly, I couldn't go with). Should see some initial twitter reactions from the press corp after that and then reviews will start coming out following the official premier of the film tomorrow night at SXSW (which is opening the festival) when the 1 day review embargo is lifted. Gotta believe Paramount is banking on it being well received and using the next three weeks to ride a wave of good reviews to push up the opening.

 

[Swedish Chef]

I honestly don't know what I was expecting when it came to a D&D movie, but I don't think this seemingly long running string of one-liners is it.
Don't get me wrong - I like humour. I just don't think I'll like a fantasy comedy. And from what I've seen of the trailers, the humour comes across to me as trite and predictable and cliche. It'll probably make more than I guessed in the other thread, but I really don't think it will be a "hit" in the studio's eyes.

 

[Henadic Theologian]

One of my players is going to a press screening of the movie tonight (sadly, I couldn't go with). Should see some initial twitter reactions from the press corp after that and then reviews will start coming out following the official premier of the film tomorrow night at SXSW (which is opening the festival) when the 1 day review embargo is lifted. Gotta believe Paramount is banking on it being well received and using the next three weeks to ride a wave of good reviews to push up the opening.

I suspect the success or failure of this movie hinges on this reaction, especially for its opening weekend.