Loki Season 2 Discussion - Spoilers

[Morrus]

Yikes. Sad ending for Loki. Does he have to sit in that chair alone for eternity now?

I thought he’d be getting a more triumphant ending.

 

[Morrus]

So Loki is now the heart of Yggdrasil, sitting on the Throne of Time, watching All Stories?

He’s what now? Did I miss a bit? What’s all that stuff?

 

[Zaukrie]

Yikes. Sad ending for Loki. Does he have to sit in that chair alone for eternity now?

I thought he’d be getting a more triumphant ending.

agreed

 

[Morrus]

It was just a failure on every level.

It’s when people say such ridiculous things like this, it’s like, what’s the point of this conversation? I mean, of course it wasn’t. You didn’t like it.

 

[Tonguez]

He’s what now? Did I miss a bit? What’s all that stuff?

You didnt see the blooming tree shape with Loki inside it holding all the threads?
he’s an Asgardian/Norse god - using the cultural filter of Yggdrasil to enthrone himself, seems like a good and triumphant story arc for him

 

[Zaukrie]

You didnt see the blooming tree shape with Loki inside it holding all the threads?
he’s an Asgardian/Norse god - using the cultural filter of Yggdrasil to enthrone himself, seems like a good and triumphant story arc for him

He's an extrovert....I'd think this job would drive him insane....

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

You didnt see the blooming tree shape with Loki inside it holding all the threads?
he’s an Asgardian/Norse god - using the cultural filter of Yggdrasil to enthrone himself, seems like a good and triumphant story arc for him

While I have clear problems with the second season that I detailed earlier, I did think that the ending in terms of Loki's arc was completely appropriate and quite good, although I would say that it was more bittersweet than anything else.

You have to start by acknowledging that as charming as he was, he was a villain. A bad dude. He killed people. Lots of people. And he did for power.

Which is why the ending works. He finally understands what it means to be a hero, and, more importantly, the burden of responsible power. After finally learning about the importance of people, of friends ... he is willing to sacrifice himself for them, for their lives, and for their choice. Just as importantly (and in keeping with the conversation with Mobius) he recognizes the value and burden of saving an individual when he chooses to save Sylvie to find another way.

The recognition that the only way to save everything he had gained (friendship, love, goodness) was to sacrifice himself was the compelling arc and his final redemption.

(Sure, it was a bit ... um .... reflective of what happened with Thor, but given more breathing space, I think that it was pulled off well.)

 

[Ryujin]

While I have clear problems with the second season that I detailed earlier, I did think that the ending in terms of Loki's arc was completely appropriate and quite good, although I would say that it was more bittersweet than anything else.

You have to start by acknowledging that as charming as he was, he was a villain. A bad dude. He killed people. Lots of people. And he did for power.

Which is why the ending works. He finally understands what it means to be a hero, and, more importantly, the burden of responsible power. After finally learning about the importance of people, of friends ... he is willing to sacrifice himself for them, for their lives, and for their choice. Just as importantly (and in keeping with the conversation with Mobius) he recognizes the value and burden of saving an individual when he chooses to save Sylvie to find another way.

The recognition that the only way to save everything he had gained (friendship, love, goodness) was to sacrifice himself was the compelling arc and his final redemption.

(Sure, it was a bit ... um .... reflective of what happened with Thor, but given more breathing space, I think that it was pulled off well.)

Yup, I'd say that he outgrew the concept of being a despot and learnt the idea of Noblesse Oblige. And we haven't necessarily lost him in future stories, either. He's now tied to all realities and all timelines. Perhaps he can manifest in them, via his newly acquired power? Might just take him a few (out of time) millennia to figure out how.

 

[Morrus]

You didnt see the blooming tree shape with Loki inside it holding all the threads?
he’s an Asgardian/Norse god - using the cultural filter of Yggdrasil to enthrone himself, seems like a good and triumphant story arc for him

I wasn’t familiar with the word.

But it looks like prison to me not triumph. I mean you can call it a throne but it’s basically a man sitting alone in a chair forever? That sounds like hell to me! Can he at least order pizza once every million years?

I guess maybe it appeals to some people? But to me that doesn’t look like a happy ending.

 

[Morrus]

While I have clear problems with the second season that I detailed earlier, I did think that the ending in terms of Loki's arc was completely appropriate and quite good, although I would say that it was more bittersweet than anything else.

You have to start by acknowledging that as charming as he was, he was a villain. A bad dude. He killed people. Lots of people. And he did for power.

Which is why the ending works. He finally understands what it means to be a hero, and, more importantly, the burden of responsible power. After finally learning about the importance of people, of friends ... he is willing to sacrifice himself for them, for their lives, and for their choice. Just as importantly (and in keeping with the conversation with Mobius) he recognizes the value and burden of saving an individual when he chooses to save Sylvie to find another way.

The recognition that the only way to save everything he had gained (friendship, love, goodness) was to sacrifice himself was the compelling arc and his final redemption.

(Sure, it was a bit ... um .... reflective of what happened with Thor, but given more breathing space, I think that it was pulled off well.)

I’d agree but… the whole of the two seasons took place over, what, two weeks? Plus a thousand years of montage right at the end?