Captain America: Brave New World - Official Trailer (2025)

[Ruin Explorer]

Yeah, I've seen too many reviews of movies that claimed they were absolute junk that I liked quite a bit to take someone saying one is horrible as anything but one data point.

It's very funny how this sort of nonsense only comes out for rubbish MCU and DCU and other nerd IP drivel, and whenever a normal movie that isn't part of an established nerd IP gets similarly mediocre reviews, people aren't saying the same.

 

[Gradine]

Like I said, that's a misrepresentation.

There's a huge between divisive, and ones where pretty much everyone agrees its mid, it's just some people are going with "mid but ok" and others are going "mid but bad".

This isn't 2/10 vs 9/10. This is 4/10 vs 5.5/10.

And the majority of critics are coming down on the 4/10 or lower side.

And no, absolutely not re: niche, that's just reality denial. Niche is a separate thing. Niche films don't crash and burn in critic reviews, generally speaking. Niche films in fact tend to do very well in critic reviews. A lot of films that almost no-one goes to see, and that are really only for a relatively small number of people - i.e. niche have 80-100% RT and 75%+ Metacritic.

This is exactly the problem. People are pretending a movie that almost all critics agree is a mediocre is "divisive" and it's not. It's mediocre. It's just for some people it was mediocre in an okay way, and others in a "this is crap" way. No-one is going to come out of this thinking it was an incredible movie, not even in the way some people might think that about Michael Bay's Pain and Gain.

I literally just a watched a review that gave it a 8/10, the bottom line was "they're going for Winter Soldier, don't quite get there, mostly because there's some obvious stitching and awkwardness that comes from the COVID blowing up Phase 4/5"

A film doesn't need a raft 5-star reviews to be a perfectly solid and fun film, and even a lot of those middling-score reviews have "fun" in there.

 

[Zardnaar]

About the reviews from critics. It's lower than movies like Phantom Menace and Clone Wars.

Lower than the phase 1-3 "bad" MCU films.
That's sort of the company it's hanging out with.

Thor the Dark World is 67% on RT critics. Last I looked this ones 51%.Phantom Menace is 53%.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I literally just a watched a review that gave it a 8/10, the bottom line was "they're going for Winter Soldier, don't quite get there, mostly because there's some obvious stitching and awkwardness that comes from the COVID blowing up Phase 4/5"

There's no movie so bad someone on YouTube didn't give it 8/10 or more, especially no MCU movie.

I mean, what's the worst MCU movie in your opinion? One with no redeeming traits? We can probably easily find an 8/10 review, and quite possibly a 10/10 or 5/5 one. You can literally farm clicks just by saying a bad MCU movie is good, or a good MCU movie is bad (especially if the latter has a female lead).

You're really just proving my point though - instead of looking what the reviews are largely like, you're looking at an extreme outlier and using it as your sole point of reference.

 

[Thomas Shey]

It's very funny how this sort of nonsense only comes out for rubbish MCU and DCU and other nerd IP drivel, and whenever a normal movie that isn't part of an established nerd IP gets similarly mediocre reviews, people aren't saying the same.

I've said the same thing about movies in and out of genre films, so unless you're working with a very selective use of "normal movie" here, in my case at least this is just nonsense. Fact is, I've liked movies that critics have hated and the public's loved and vice versa, and at least a few that both hated (but that's less common).

So kindly project on someone else.

 

[Paul Farquhar]

Thor the Dark World

That was worth watching for the heist sequence, and because I was working in Greenwich at the time.

 

[Zardnaar]

That was worth watching for the heist sequence, and because I was working in Greenwich at the time.

I couldn't think of another "bad" phase 1-3 movie. They all kinda blended togather for me and I don't think the MCU is all that anyway.

 

[DrunkonDuty]

I have no doubt I will walk out of the cinema saying things like "Well they eff'd up here and here and here." "All they had to do with that was this." And almost certianly "That's the most wishy washy way to (mis)treat a modern neo-colonial war over valuable resources."

And that is some of the joy I will get from watching this.

 

[Thomas Shey]

Well, I and the wife went out and saw CA: Brave New World tonight, and while it had some problems, I didn't see anything to make me call it bad. Maybe at worst the always-snarky "mid" (though I kind of hate that because its essentially turning every average anything into an insult), though I still thought with the flaws it was above average.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

So kindly project on someone else.

You don't get to moan about projecting when you're putting out generalized nonsense about "the critics" being wrong.

Maybe at worst the always-snarky "mid" (though I kind of hate that because its essentially turning every average anything into an insult)

What a way to admit it is, in fact, mid, and the critics were correct! Good grief lol.

I still thought with the flaws it was above average.

Yeah but how far above? 5.5/10? That's above average, I mean, you could give a movie a 0/10, it's not a d10! 6/10? Because I'm guessing not 7/10 because then we're into movies you're never going to reluctantly call mid when you hate the term.