Citadel of the Iron Crown - Burglars in Mirkwood

Dlsharrock

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I agree about Enworld. It's become frustrating for me also and I've given serious thought to moving my games to somewhere like pbphouse.com, but I think I'll see how Enworld 2 pans out first.

I think your suggestion for Aranel's preferred course of action is as valid as any and concurs with Binder_Fred's preference to track the Hobbit escapees. But all this is being put out there for open discussion. I'm certainly not trying to rail the game into any set path, just making suggestions for how we can move beyond the confines of the logging camp.
 

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Binder Fred

3 rings to bind them all!
Dlsharrock said:
Thoughts?
Alright, so we're saying:

Tonight:
- Conclude conversation
- Crosscheck Baran-Aranel
- Examine scroll​
Tomorrow, first light:
- Track attempt​

I'm seeing bringing Mythia as premature at this point, granted that we have no idea which way the tracks will go or even if there will be any tracking at all. I'd be inclined to treat the Thranduil voyage as a separate matter, one more closely connected to the Laketown visit than the tracking attempt.

That said, Baran is far from expert in things occult and magical, so if others who are insist/think it's a good idea to do it post-haste, they'll get no objections from him. Just do it *after* the track attempt (which should probably include a visit to Aerec's dell, supposing the tracks don't lead there to begin with).

Is there another reason to bring Mythia along (or Gellion for that matter)?

Binder Fred, who hadn't realized he'd used Baran's authority at all...

P.S Oh, Last thing, as mentionned before I'll be going vacationing at the end of next week. Might be a good idea to have a camp emergency crop up so Baran either can't go or has to be called back from the track attempt (depending where we are in the sequence). Internet access will be *very* limited for that two weeks (read once, maybe twice)
 

Dlsharrock

First Post
- Conclude conversation (In character)
- Crosscheck Baran-Aranel (Out of character)

- Examine scroll
examine scroll?

Tomorrow, first light:
- Track attempt
Provided everyone's in agreement with Aranel's suggestion. I'm keen to hear what Fenris has to say about Thalion's preference. Thalion is, after all, probably itching to head north to the Lonely Mountain and Mirkwood would be a detour.

Is there another reason to bring Mythia along (or Gellion for that matter)?

I think Aranel wants to bring her to Thranduil's healers. Her skull is fractured. Gellion will have his own reasons which I will introduce at the start of the thread if we go along that route.

Re. holidays, maybe we'll do the track attempt and then Thranduil's court sans Baran if he isn't up for the idea.

Binder Fred, who hadn't realized he'd used Baran's authority at all

Did I/anyone say you had?
 

Fenris

Adventurer
OOC: Thalion can and will heal Mythia, he even offered to do so when he left the cabin.

A few days delay isn't a big deal for Thalion, but he will not go back to Thranduil's court. He will wait outside patiently if needed, but if it's for healing, well Thalion can handle that.
 

Binder Fred

3 rings to bind them all!
Dlsharrock said:
examine scroll?
Yes? See how damaged it is, if the damage hasn't uncovered new aspects of it, anything hidden in/around the rollers? something sandwiched between glued double sheets? Secret script seen only by flame transparency? Only by moonlight? New meaning to the runes inscribed thereon (which he hasn't really puzzled over before now)? In short : why is this object - admittedly dear to *him* - of interrest to anybody else?

Ah, and a few other questions while I think of it :
[SBLOCK=Baran knows]
- What is the likely verdict from the Laketown authorities re thieves?

- What does Baran know of the elven home? All stone/underground or some wooden constructions in there as well? Noted craftmen in attendance, say Círdan (dare I dream :)?

- What's the likely walk time to 1) Thranduil's domain, 2) Laketown, 3) Lonely mountain? We'll likely have a supply cart for the trip to Laketown at least.[/SBLOCK]

Dlsharrock said:
Did I/anyone say you had?
This passage gave me the idea : "The emphasis on one or two players is also my fault, and springs from two things: my failure to insist Baran take a less commanding role in the camp [...]"

Binder fred, coffee breaking away.
 

Dlsharrock

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I should also add, don't forget the rumours at the start of thread. If any players had their hearts set on exploring some or any of those that might also be an option or could be a side-adventure along the way.

Don't forget the map in the OP for a rough guide to locations. The distance between the mountains and Lake Esgaroth represents about 12 hours at strong march (terrain notwithstanding) with a short break for food. Forest terrain will slow them considerably, especially if they're tracking. On the map, the crescent of trees next to the word 'mountain' is the line of the tributary coming down from the camp. Don't place too much accuracy in the map. It's not precise cartography.

Binder_Fred said:
Yes? See how damaged it is, if the damage hasn't uncovered new aspects of it, anything hidden in/around the rollers? something sandwiched between glued double sheets? Secret script seen only by flame transparency? Only by moonlight? New meaning to the runes inscribed thereon (which he hasn't really puzzled over before now)? In short : why is this object - admittedly dear to *him* - of interrest to anybody else?

I got ya. I thought you were referring to something someone already requested to do.

[SBLOCK=Baran Knows]
What is the likely verdict from the Laketown authorities re thieves?
In Baran's experience, the skeleton authorities at Lake Town would usually pass something like this on to Dale.

What does Baran know of the elven home? All stone/underground or some wooden constructions in there as well? Noted craftmen in attendance, say Círdan (dare I dream ?
From what he's been able to ascertain in the past, Thranduil's court is some kind of stone river-side mansion. Elves, however, are very secretive about their own affairs. He doesn't know of any notable craftsmen in attendance, but Aranel might :)

What's the likely walk time to 1) Thranduil's domain, 2) Laketown, 3) Lonely mountain? We'll likely have a supply cart for the trip to Laketown at least.

1) With the elves as guides, 2 to 3 days full march, heading directly north to Forest River road then turning northwest along the road but more if they track the hobbits first. This is the only remaining main thoroughfare in Mirkwood considered safe enough to travel without hindrance.

2) About one day. Travelling by river cuts the journey in half (and I always assumed the camp has access to some kind of punt?).

3) It's about another day's march to Dale and the Lonely Mountain, though the terrain is easier and it's not quite as far. For this leg of the journey the current would be against them if they attempted it by boat so a cart might be useful here.[/SBLOCK]

Binder_Fred said:
This passage gave me the idea : "The emphasis on one or two players is also my fault, and springs from two things: my failure to insist Baran take a less commanding role in the camp [...]"
Well, he is camp foreman.

In context, the quote pertains to the collective emphasis placed on Baran. He owns the parchment. The burglar's broke into his hut. Thalion seeks him, as do the thrushes. And he's the camp foreman. But I'm not placing blame anywhere except on myself.

Had I insisted Baran was just another camp employee, rather than the foreman, I think it would have lessened the emphasis a bit. The other things kinda snowball from his owning the scroll, but having a dwarf on the go was just too tempting and I'm only human :)
 

Binder Fred

3 rings to bind them all!
So we are go? Or are we waiting for Shayuri to OK Mythia's participation (or lack thereof)?

Dlsharrock said:
About one day [to Laketown]. Travelling by river cuts the journey in half (and I always assumed the camp has access to some kind of punt?).
Baran was thinking of bringing back supplies from Laketown, hence the cart idea. How rapid-intensive is this river? i.e. could a boat be hauled back upstrem by a rope and horse combo?

Dlsharrock said:
In context, the quote pertains to the collective emphasis placed on Baran. He owns the parchment. The burglar's broke into his hut. Thalion seeks him, as do the thrushes. And he's the camp foreman.
Ah, I see. Better, story-wise, to have had another character own the scroll, or have Baran be simply the smith of the camp. Got ya.

[SBLOCK=Baran Knows]
Dlsharrock said:
In Baran's experience, the skeleton authorities at Lake Town would usually pass something like this on to Dale.
And I suppose Laketown doesn't have the personnel to escort the hobbits there, right? :) So what would be Dale's likely judgement on the hobbits' crimes?[/SBLOCK]

Binder fred, thinking there's just enough time to wrap up the hut scene before he goes.
 

Dlsharrock

First Post
Binder_Fred said:
So we are go? Or are we waiting for Shayuri to OK Mythia's participation (or lack thereof)?

I was waiting to hear back from anyone really. Yes, I do need to know whether you guys think Mythia should or shouldn't go too.

If Thalion can heal her then Shay's suggestion of taking her to Thranduil may not be relevant. Also, I'm fuzzy whether Aranel would insist on heading to Thranduil's court or would be just as happy sending a message. Thalion doesn't seem keen on going there so Aranel's the only one with the motivation persay. It's Shay's call I guess.

The options I've suggested so far:

Finish this thread (but wrap things up fairly swiftly I think).
Baran wants to examine the scroll.

We'll complete the above in this thread (start IC continuation whenever you like). Then a new thread marking a new day and so far the consensus seems to be:

Track the hobbits
Find the clearing with the mark on the tree

So when I start the new thread we'll take it as read that at some point the group have discussed their options and decided to track the other burglars into Mirkwood and find the clearing with the mark if it's along the way.

I don't know if you all want to decide now or later whether to go onto Thranduil's court, go to Lake Town or throw poopy kaka at the whole plot seed thing and do something else. Up to you.
 

Dlsharrock

First Post
[SBLOCK=Baran Knows]
And I suppose Laketown doesn't have the personnel to escort the hobbits there, right? So what would be Dale's likely judgement on the hobbits' crimes?

There are Dale soldiers stationed in Lake Town. But yes, I think it's doubtful they'd escort the hobbits to Dale. Baran would guess this before the outset. He wouldn't have the foggiest idea how Dale will deal with the prisoners. The nobles of Dale are a bit of an enigma. He deals mostly with Lake Town, when he deals with any of them at all. My take was that, as foreman, he oversees the running of the camp. I imagine Granthan would be the diplomat and business rep.[/SBLOCK]
 

Binder Fred

3 rings to bind them all!
Dlsharrock said:
We'll complete the above in this thread (start IC continuation whenever you like).
Binder Fred activates Past-Posticus, undead golem of Awesome might! http://www.enworld.org/showpost.php?p=4288376&postcount=187.

Turn ends!

Your move RENAU1G!
Your move DLSHARROCK!

[Cross-check Aranel-Baran]
Male Hobbit results:
- himself
Name probably not Handel
leader of the five (?)
Fears deadly retribution for failing Him
weird move towards his (left?) shoulder associated with that​
- The Master, Him, etc
burn me in the tower he would
NOT a man, nor a dwarf, nor residing in the east
He collects many bits and pieces
Steal from elves and *her* of tricksy things​
- The scroll
The hobbits came for it specifically
Many others want it​
"Do you guess who 'she' is, lady of the lotus? Her of well-guarded tricksy things. Her of elveses." It's late, fire is low, clouds quietly uncurling before the stars, out there where the forest was and shall be.

<Response Aranel?>

Binder fred, wondering when he played CCG last...

Lotus are Mystery and Truth
 
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