Converting Epic Level Beings
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BOZ
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yeah, but:
some more issues for kerzit, then i will shut up for awhile.
what, if anything, should his fast healing ability be?
should we bump up his resistances? the demon lords in BovD have 20 instead of 10.
and for skills, he would appear to have 351 ranks. i'd say for skills, he should have at least the following: Bluff, Climb, Concentration, Diplomacy, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Spot
BOZ said:
some more issues for kerzit, then i will shut up for awhile.
what, if anything, should his fast healing ability be?
should we bump up his resistances? the demon lords in BovD have 20 instead of 10.
and for skills, he would appear to have 351 ranks. i'd say for skills, he should have at least the following: Bluff, Climb, Concentration, Diplomacy, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Spot
Krishnath
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BOZ said:yeah, but:
some more issues for kerzit, then i will shut up for awhile.
what, if anything, should his fast healing ability be?
should we bump up his resistances? the demon lords in BovD have 20 instead of 10.
and for skills, he would appear to have 351 ranks. i'd say for skills, he should have at least the following: Bluff, Climb, Concentration, Diplomacy, Hide, Intimidate, Jump, Knowledge (arcana), Knowledge (history), Knowledge (the planes), Listen, Search, Sense Motive, Spellcraft, Spot
Yes, but he isn't a lord, he is a servant of one (most likely Demogorgon) So, CR+8 should be sufficient for SR, as for fast healing, how about fast healing 10? As for the resistances, I suggest 15.
And regarding the skills, you're on your own.
Leopold
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ok i disagree with his tentacle having to hit with both for improved grab. Some monsters that have tentacles, like kraken, only have to hit with one before they can grapple. this guy is big so he should be able to do it with one tentacle.
now with 2 hands no, 2 tentacles yes.
oh and combat reflexes for sure with this guy!!
now with 2 hands no, 2 tentacles yes.
oh and combat reflexes for sure with this guy!!
Shade
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I'm with Krishnath 100% on the the SR. This guy is not a prince or lord, so doesn't necessarily deserve all of their abilities.
On that same note, why does he need fast healing at all?
As for resistances, I'd go with 10, 15 tops. Keep in mind that the BOVD is 3E, where all demons had resistance 20.
For CR, 22 seems reasonable. He isn't much tougher than a balor, and lacks the vorpal sword and cool spell-like abilities.
Natural armor of 22 seems right in line with other demons near that CR.
Tentacle for primary attack...yes.
I agree with all the skills BOZ mentioned, plus would also add Spellcraft and Survival (useful for tracking down those who take what he guards). Speaking of which, should we give this guy Track, or maybe locate object as a spell-like ability?
On that same note, why does he need fast healing at all?
As for resistances, I'd go with 10, 15 tops. Keep in mind that the BOVD is 3E, where all demons had resistance 20.
For CR, 22 seems reasonable. He isn't much tougher than a balor, and lacks the vorpal sword and cool spell-like abilities.
Natural armor of 22 seems right in line with other demons near that CR.
Tentacle for primary attack...yes.
I agree with all the skills BOZ mentioned, plus would also add Spellcraft and Survival (useful for tracking down those who take what he guards). Speaking of which, should we give this guy Track, or maybe locate object as a spell-like ability?
BOZ
Creature Cataloguer
Ok, keeping the resistances as-is in that case. The BoED paragons have resistances of 10 anyway.
CR 22, therefore SR 30.
Natural armor 22, and would a deflection bonus of +6 or an insight bonus of +7 be so wrong?
Fast healing – gone.
Skills – already had Spellcraft. Survival added – will therefore get a synergy bonus from Search for tracking. 
Improved grab – single tentacle hit.
CR 22, therefore SR 30.
Natural armor 22, and would a deflection bonus of +6 or an insight bonus of +7 be so wrong?
Fast healing – gone.
Skills – already had Spellcraft.
Survival added – will therefore get a synergy bonus from Search for tracking. Improved grab – single tentacle hit.
Shade
Monster Junkie
It appears that all tanar'ri have resistance to acid 10, cold 10, and fire 10 in 3.5.
In 3E, all tanar'ri had resistance to acid 20, cold 20, and fire 20, even the demon lords.
Thus, it would seem that all tanar'ri (even demon lords), should have resistance to acid 10, cold 10, and fire 10 in 3.5.
To further support this, the celestial paragons have resistances 10.
In 3E, all tanar'ri had resistance to acid 20, cold 20, and fire 20, even the demon lords.
Thus, it would seem that all tanar'ri (even demon lords), should have resistance to acid 10, cold 10, and fire 10 in 3.5.
To further support this, the celestial paragons have resistances 10.
Shade
Monster Junkie
D'oh! I had this window open too long while I did research and missed your post. 
I've changed my stance on the insight/deflection/etc. bonus to AC. During my research, I found the myrmyxicus demon has +5 profane bonus to AC. So I'd vote profane or insight (reflecting its guardian foresight or something).
I've changed my stance on the insight/deflection/etc. bonus to AC. During my research, I found the myrmyxicus demon has +5 profane bonus to AC. So I'd vote profane or insight (reflecting its guardian foresight or something).
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