D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

[bedir than]

If Hasbro's $75M investment was about strengthening the brand, it appears to be paying off.

Google search for D&D (the game) peaked the week the movie released, but its drop was still a higher level than any other point in 2023 prior to the movie and a summer spike in 2022. It is now about to hit the April week 1 spike and may even surpass when full data gets in.

tldr - this chart basically shows that the movie increased search results by about double from prior to the first trailer.

 

[jerryrice4949]

Neither a hit nor a flop. Not everything is binary. I would say a modest success but not quite as solid as other more established franchises. But from what I read a lot of movies are disappointing this summer with the exception of just a few well established franchises which supports HAT as doing solidly.

 

[bedir than]

Launch week on P+ PC Mag said that D&D: Honor Among Thieves was the 5th most watched show and/or movie across all streamers.

Week two it is now number 2, ahead of Succession and Ted Lasso.

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[Quickleaf]

This is seriously cool practical effects with the quicksand rug: DnD movie pranked its cast with real quicksand floor trap

 

[bedir than]

Another week's most-watched streaming movies and shows on all platforms list is out.

D&D: Honor Among Thieves fell to third in week three, behind Silo and behind Into the Spiderverse.

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It remains ahead of films that passed it in box office and get more online push (Ted Lasso and Successsion).

Digital sales remain strong as it enters its second month. It remains in the top 10 for Amazon, had a two day dip to iTunes #2 after 9 days at #1, ten straight days at #1 on Google, on Vudu it's dropped to 5th. All of those are the worldwide charts, but shouldn't be noted that for Amazon it is only available in the US and Germany, despite that low distro it remains ten days in top 10. When it was only available in the US for the first two weeks on Amazon it was a dominant top 4. The only drop is because of limited international availability on that platform.

The supposed "flop" has absolutely and thoroughly dominated digital release and viewing, crushing the competition.

Also, Paramount Global stock is has now nearly caught up to what it started the year at and is two dollars higher than its low just after the bad quarterly report.

 

[bedir than]

Whip Media (a kind of Nielsen for streaming) has it as the number one movie in the US

‘Dungeons & Dragons’ Gets a Second Roll of the Dice in Streaming | Chart

The fantasy-heist adventure disappointed at the box office, but it’s boosting Paramount+ now

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[Zardnaar]

Doesn't give figures though. There's around 150 million hole from the box office.

They d9nt get any extra money from Paramount + as Paramont already paid for it.

So that leaves VoD might be number 1 but that coukd only be ten-twenty million dollars.

Basically don't expect a sequel anytime soon.

 

[jerryrice4949]

Doesn't give figures though. There's around 150 million hole from the box office.

They d9nt get any extra money from Paramount + as Paramont already paid for it.

So that leaves VoD might be number 1 but that coukd only be ten-twenty million dollars.

Basically don't expect a sequel anytime soon.

Well there couldn’t be a sequel anytime soon with the WAG strike anyways. But I think this movie will end up making money and has potential to grow into a franchise. It’s not there yet but I think we will see other D&D media products either tv or movie in the relatively near future. i.e. the next 1-3 years.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well there couldn’t be a sequel anytime soon with the WAG strike anyways. But I think this movie will end up making money and has potential to grow into a franchise. It’s not there yet but I think we will see other D&D media products either tv or movie in the relatively near future. i.e. the next 1-3 years.

Safe bet considering TV show gas already been announced so ukess that gets canceled.

 

[bedir than]

They d9nt get any extra money from Paramount + as Paramont already paid for it.

Are you suggesting that the people watching the movie aren't paying for it? Because if they pay for Paramount+ then Paramount gets money.

Paramount having three #1s streaming shows this year is why the stock value is bouncing back and why the investor class is excited to buy stock

 

[Zardnaar]

Are you suggesting that the people watching the movie aren't paying for it? Because if they pay for Paramount+ then Paramount gets money.

Paramount having three #1s streaming shows this year is why the stock value is bouncing back and why the investor class is excited to buy stock

They get that money regardless if D&D is in it or not.

Apparently there's a first click.metric which gives them an idea of what attracts new subscribers.

They're losing money on streaming anyway so it's a moot point.

 

[bedir than]

They get that money regardless if D&D is in it or not.

No. They don't. People don't sign up and retain streaming platforms if the content isn't good enough to watch

 

[Zardnaar]

No. They don't. People don't sign up and retain streaming platforms if the content isn't good enough to watch

You xant put all of Paramounts retention rate on D&D:HAT.

It has ne of the best rated network TV shows on it as well.

I don't think HAT significantly effected Paramounts numbers to much one way or another.

In any event it's a moot point they're losing money on Paramount+ anyway.

 

[bedir than]

You xant put all of Paramounts retention rate on D&D:HAT.

It has ne of the best rated network TV shows on it as well.

I don't think HAT significantly effected Paramounts numbers to much one way or another.

In any event it's a moot point they're losing money on Paramount+ anyway.

I haven't put all of P+ earnings on Honor Among Thieves. It's disingenuous to suggest I have.

When you mention the best rated network TV programs being on P+ it's important to remember that those properties are doing worse than Honor Among Thieves.

Your examples of the movie failing on streaming require reality to be ignored

 

[Zardnaar]

I haven't put all of P+ earnings on Honor Among Thieves. It's disingenuous to suggest I have.

When you mention the best rated network TV programs being on P+ it's important to remember that those properties are doing worse than Honor Among Thieves.

Your examples of the movie failing on streaming require reality to be ignored

You're ignoring the actual money.

At best its losing less money on streaming.

As I said before the movies lost more money than TSR ever did. You were the one who thought a sequel was gonna be announced end of April iirc and wanted to make a one sided bet on it.

 

[bedir than]

You're ignoring the actual money.

At best its losing less money on streaming.

A statement without evidence, to counter statements backed by industry leading websites whose reason for existence is accuracy.

People pay money to watch P+. More of them are watching Honor Among Thieves than CSI

People pay money for a digital copy of a movie. More people worldwide are doing that than they are for any other movie for weeks now.

 

[Zardnaar]

A statement without evidence, to counter statements backed by industry leading websites whose reason for existence is accuracy.

People pay money to watch P+. More of them are watching Honor Among Thieves than CSI

People pay money for a digital copy of a movie. More people worldwide are doing that than they are for any other movie for weeks now.

Well I just proved you wrong on the other thread.

You're translating lots of people (unknown numbers) into success.

I'm just looking at the money. All verifiable and the money's not there.

At best Paramount might make money up to 5 years away which is well past the window where D&D will have any impact.



If HAT was beating Marion in money earned not vague platitudes like number 1 on certain streamers they woukd most likely be screaming that from the treetops

 

[Quickleaf]

How are folks concluding that the movie flopped?

When I look at the numbers site it says the worldwide box office was $207,954,816, while the production budget was $150,000,000.

Are there costs that are typically not included in a movie's production budget (e.g. overhead, pre-production, development)? Are those 10% of production cost like contingency in other industries?

Are there relevant profits not typically included in "worldwide box office"?

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[fluffybunbunkittens]

Are there costs that are typically not included in a movie's production budget

Marketing is often considered to double a movie's budget. Also, not every theater visit gets the studio the same amount of money, so what part of the world it does well in matters. And in a corporate sense, not being an amazing success IS equal to failure.

 

[bedir than]

Well I just proved you wrong on the other thread.

You're translating lots of people (unknown numbers) into success.

I'm just looking at the money. All verifiable and the money's not there.

At best Paramount might make money up to 5 years away which is well past the window where D&D will have any impact.



If HAT was beating Marion in money earned not vague platitudes like number 1 on certain streamers they woukd most likely be screaming that from the treetops

The only way you "proved me wrong" is to insist that people watch Paramount+ or purchase things from iTunes for free.