D&D Movie/TV D&D Movie Hit or Flop?

[Zardnaar]

whispers

Anyone you don't know telling you how a creative product turned out is giving you a review.

Reviews are fine professional critics take with grain of salt. They love boring historical type dramas for example.

 

[Parmandur]

Reviews are fine professional critics take with grain of salt. They love boring historical type dramas for example.

Boring is relative, and critics ate actually quite diverse. People do pay attention when there is broad consensus that something sucks or is great: that's why Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic are big, people do actually weigh those results when making a ticket purchase decision.

 

[CommodoreKong]

Its basically why I'm just looking at the box office numbers.
If the movies a big hit or big flop HA won't matter to much either way. It's more about who gets what (studio, taxes, directors etc) vs how successful the movie is.

It will matter if the numbers are marginal (300-400 million) or maybe a bit higher since it seems we don't know if the 151 million includes marketing or not.

From what I understand publically known budget numbers typically don't include marketing. I'm guessing Paramount will probably spend another $100 million or so marketing the movie worldwide.

Plus theaters take a cut of ticket sales and often there will be local distributors in various foreign markets that take a cut. Typical wisdom is 2.5-3x the budget to start making money off the box office. Now there are other revenue streams (tie in merchandise, novels, dvd/blu ray, streaming services like Vudu, TV rights, etc) but if we want to see a sequel the movie will need to put up some big numbers.

There's so many other movies coming out around this time (Creed 3, Shazam 2, John Wick 4, Mario) that I don't know how Honor Among Thieves will do. D&D is certainly a well known brand but I sound guess most people who have heard of it have never played it and I don’t know how many would be willing to go see a movie with so many other options coming out.

 

[Zardnaar]

Boring is relative, and critics ate actually quite diverse. People do pay attention when there is broad consensus that something sucks or is great: that's why Rotten Tomatoes and Metacritic are big, people do actually weigh those results when making a ticket purchase decision.

They're kinda terrible tbh. I'll use imdb if I'm inclined to look for others opinions.

Rotten Tomato problem for me is if you used a % system anything over 51% is thumbs up basically. I don't paymoney generally for videoganes and movies below 70%. But RT I woukd thumbs up it (movie was OK watched it on TV /streaming maybe).

I find with rotten tomatoes if you average the user and critic score you get a more realistic score of the movie.

 

[Parmandur]

They're kinda terrible tbh. I'll use imdb if I'm inclined to look for others opinions.

Rotten Tomato problem for me is if you used a % system anything over 51% is thumbs up basically. I don't paymoney generally for videoganes and movies below 70%. But RT I woukd thumbs up it (movie was OK watched it on TV /streaming maybe).

I find with rotten tomatoes if you average the user and critic score you get a more realistic score of the movie.

Well, that's what the info is for, yes.

If the thumbs down is way down (30%, say), it will influence people to stay away. If they are firmly up (90%), people will take note and get curious. So if reviews come out early and strongly positive, that can move the needle with the general audience.

 

[Zardnaar]

Well, that's what the info is for, yes.

If the thumbs down is way down (30%, say), it will influence people to stay away. If they are firmly up (90%), people will take note and get curious. So if reviews come out early and strongly positive, that can move the needle with the general audience.

Maybe alot of critical darling movies bomb. Ultimately user scores are more important they're the ones paying the money.

Season 1 Orville critic score was 27% lol.

 

[CommodoreKong]

One other thing to not is the movie is premiering several weeks at SXSW several we3ks before its wide release so I'm guessing Paramount is fairly confident in the quality of the movie sice they wouldn't want several weeks of bad word of mouth before the wide release.

 

[payn]

Season 1 Orville critic score was 27% lol.

Right? Seems a bit high.

 

[Parmandur]

Maybe alot of critical darling movies bomb. Ultimately user scores are more important they're the ones paying the money.

Season 1 Orville critic score was 27% lol.

The correlation between the critical result and box office is strong, it it is not the only factor. A small period drama that is panned by the critics is going to make less than a small period drama beloved by critics. A big blockbuster that receives good reviews will make more money, though negative reviews will have less impact on big movies.

 

[Zardnaar]

The correlation between the critical result and box office is strong, it it is not the only factor. A small period drama that is panned by the critics is going to make less than a small period drama beloved by critics. A big blockbuster that receives good reviews will make more money, though negative reviews will have less impact on big movies.

Maybe main point Iis Rottin Tomatoes exaggerates the extremes positive or negative with movies.
Personally I think the sites hot garbage and all but useless for determining if a movie is any good or not.

May as well find a thread on ENworld about a movie it's a better guide than RT. Not sure about Metacritic.