Deities & Demigods

[Nightfall]

Don't worry Apost, I'll find it for myself.

[Edit: FOUND IT. Azathoth DOESN'T have a divine rank, at least not on this part. Hm. VERRRY interesting...]

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hi Nightfall mate!

Krusty, remind me again, what's Azathoth's divine rank? Does he even HAVE a divine rank?

Azathoth is (technically) Divine Rank 20.*

http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=cthulhu/article/ex20020321h

*Notice he has a +20 Divine bonus to AC. Damage Reduction 55/+4; Spell Resistance 52; Fire Resistance 40 etc.

 

[Nightfall]

BUT there's no OFFICAL divine rank. Still I'll take your word for it.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hello again mate!

BUT there's no OFFICAL divine rank.

Exactly - none of the deities in CoC blatantly utilise Divine Ranks - thats why they don't go to the trouble explaining them (DR) in the book. I talked with Monte (Cook) about this on his forum and he remarked that they integrated the rules into the descriptions so that both books could be used independantly and yet be fully compatible.

Still I'll take your word for it.

You can always put your trust...in Krust!

 

[ColonelHardisson]

I don't what you guys consider "official," but in the CoC d20 book, page 289, under Divine Qualities:

Checks (Ex): A god adds a bonus on all checks. The bonus is 5 for demigods, 10 for lesser deities, 15 for intermediate deities, and 20 for greater deities.

Sounds like divine rank to me...

 

[Heretic Apostate]

:snip post:

It helps to look a little further before posting, eh?

 

[Spatula]

Sounds more like you're interested in ELH Spatula .

From what I understand, DDg has rules for players to ascend, but keeps godhood out of the hands of player characters (ie, it's retirement effectively). ELH might have mechanics elsewise but who knows.

That said, I have alot harder time imagining a campaign with PCs as actual gods than I do imagining PCs beating on gods but that's just me.

Considering how powerful even demigods are, it doesn't seem like it's possible for player characters to beat on gods without having ELH... unless they themselves are gods. Since ELH and DDG are seperate rulesets that don't depend on one another, I was thinking that perhaps DDG was going to provide rules for advancing through the divine ranks... Something like the OD&D Immortals rules perhaps. I would have found that very interesting.

Lacking rules for playing gods, what's the purpose of providing stats for them? From what I've seen so far, anything greater than a demigod is unbeatable by regular (i.e. non-epic) characters.

 

[Nightfall]

Or at least unkillable unless your a dracolich like the infamous Creeping Doom from Wyrms in the North.

As for PLAYING gods, my advice, don't treat them like NPCs as much as LIVING beings that generally only get involved WHEN it's important to their portfolio. Course my mate Krusty could probably offer better advice. He's the EPIC/DEITY man.


Btw, I 85% of the time put my trust in my mate Krust! Just save the 15% for the Scarred Lands!

 

[Vaeron]

Considering how powerful even demigods are, it doesn't seem like it's possible for player characters to beat on gods without having ELH... unless they themselves are gods. Since ELH and DDG are seperate rulesets that don't depend on one another, I was thinking that perhaps DDG was going to provide rules for advancing through the divine ranks... Something like the OD&D Immortals rules perhaps. I would have found that very interesting.

D&DG does include divine ascention information, if the Web Enchancment WoTC just released for it is any indication. It talks about players advancing, how dieties gain divine rank, and shows a sample progression from quasi thru greater.

V

 

[Derulbaskul]

D&DG does include divine ascention information, if the Web Enchancment WoTC just released for it is any indication. It talks about players advancing, how dieties gain divine rank, and shows a sample progression from quasi thru greater.
V

It does have information on divine ascension, but there are no "nuts'n'bolts" in terms of ability score increases etc....

Cheers
NPP