Do you tell pretty girls that they're pretty?

Rel said:
I just got out of the shower and had a sudden change of heart about this whole situation. I forgot I'm wearing Axe deoderant and body spray now. I can't be going around telling women that they have pretty eyes!

I leave and the poor girl is left standing there with the burning desire to have sex with me in an elevator. :(

I may have to selectively give compliments in the future at times when I don't smell so damn sexy. *Shakes fist at sky* Good Hygene! How you burden me with moral dilemmas!
Hmmm, you've got a point there. Either I'll have to stop complimenting girls, or stop putting on TAG body spray every morning. Leaving them there unfulfilled is just plain cruel. :lol:
 

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reveal said:
Paying a compliment != flirting. Your post definitely supports my argument. ;)
Oh, I agree. I'm just saying that it feels like flirting to me, because I'm such a horn dog. Best for me to just avoid going there. :p
 

Rel said:
I just got out of the shower and had a sudden change of heart about this whole situation. I forgot I'm wearing Axe deoderant and body spray now. I can't be going around telling women that they have pretty eyes!

I leave and the poor girl is left standing there with the burning desire to have sex with me in an elevator. :(

I may have to selectively give compliments in the future at times when I don't smell so damn sexy. *Shakes fist at sky* Good Hygene! How you burden me with moral dilemmas!

Are you the reason Congress says kids can't distinguish reality from fantasy? ;)
 

I thought I was the only one.

Wow, wish I had come across this thread a couple weeks ago. Normally, I think compliments are great, everyone needs encouragement and I've seen a compliment really improve someone's day/emotions. Now, I'm mostly talking about personality or intellect or similar things here, I don't usually mention physical attributes (especially with the opposite sex) other than complimenting someone on their clothes or hair, or unless they are feeling down about some aspect of themselves that I feel is actually rather nice. Life is too short not to be nice to people and make them feel special. For the record, I am married, and I don't want to hide anything from my wife, and while secrets may be inevitable I believe honesty and openness should be the rule. Not sure if my wife would agree with me about being that nice to people, but that's how it is.

That said, I find myself in a perhaps similar situation to Rel. I've been working on a postgraduate course, and I was fortunate to make a lot of new friends among my classmates. As it happened, for the final stage of the course, a research project, most of my friends dropped out, except for me and one friend. Not sure how to describe her at this point, except that she is very beautiful. I say she is a friend, but for most of the time, I tried to avoid being alone with her, as I didn't want to put myself in an awkward position. When it came to the research though, we ended up spending a lot of time together sorting out wrinkles in our projects, and despite attempts on both sides to include the rest of our classmates, it was mostly just us. Now, I think I was a lot like ForceUser in assuming that she "1) she has a boyfriend, 2) guys fall all over her constantly, and I'm not going to be one of those guys, and 3) she's probably coasted through life on her looks and, thus, isn't worth the time of day anyway." But, as I was spending all this time with her, I realized that she was a really special person and a very good friend. Now, she really was an amazing help with my project, and deserved more thanks than I felt was appropriate to say to her, being married. So, sensing that we would all be going our separate ways and that it was something that she was needing a compliment at the time, I told her all this. She really freaked, and I think assumed I was making a pass at her. I tried to make it clear from the beginning that she was a friend and that I'm happily married, but I think I just ended up digging my hole deeper.

So now I'm really confused. Not having been in many relationships, I'm not quite sure what is appropriate in this area. I really want to be a good husband and a good friend, and to do the right thing. I'm not sure if that was, but it really felt like it at the time. Now I feel I've betrayed my wife and hurt a friend, when I was trying to be nice and say that she was a very special person. Any advice would be appreciated.
 

Joshua Dyal said:
Exactly, and given the way in which you (meaning Rel, not reveal) said it (as you were walking out the door) I don't see how this could possibly be interpreted as a come-on, or flirting, frankly.

Wsell, a large part of this is not how you would see it or interpret it, now is it? It's that darned free will - people take things from their own frame of reference, not ours. She'll interpret it as she sees fit.

A compliment on attractiveness means you've been paying attention to how attractive they are. And, when a man pays attention to physical attractiveness, what else does one expect they're thinking, hm? :)
 

I don't think it was a big deal. I think most inter-gender communication can be misconstrued as flirting, which in many cases is innocent. At least you didn't compliment her butt or ask if she's free Friday night. :lol:

Rel said:
I just got out of the shower and had a sudden change of heart about this whole situation. I forgot I'm wearing Axe deoderant and body spray now. I can't be going around telling women that they have pretty eyes!

I leave and the poor girl is left standing there with the burning desire to have sex with me in an elevator. :(

I may have to selectively give compliments in the future at times when I don't smell so damn sexy. *Shakes fist at sky* Good Hygene! How you burden me with moral dilemmas!

Hmm, I put on Axe body spray this morning, but I don't recall being jumped by beautiful women. Then again I didn't read Rel's Guide to Pumpkin Toting, maybe I should?
 

Crazy Hedgehog said:
Now I feel I've betrayed my wife and hurt a friend, when I was trying to be nice and say that she was a very special person. Any advice would be appreciated.
I'm glad you're raising this whole issue of how this sort of thing reflects back on marriage. I notice I'm one of the few people on the thread so far to suggest that Rel is needlessly multiplying the number of secrets he has from his wife, for no good purpose.

As for your situation, the best thing to do is act like the whole thing never happened. Eventually, the feelings of awkwardness will subside. No action you take, however, will accelerate this process.
 

fusangite said:
I notice I'm one of the few people on the thread so far to suggest that Rel is needlessly multiplying the number of secrets he has from his wife, for no good purpose.

I don't think he's doing any such thing.

I don't always tell my wife what I had for lunch, or the details of every conversation I had with my coworkers. But that's not keeping secrets, it's just not cluttering up what little time we have together with irrelevancies.

A spouse is allowed to have interations with other human beings without discussing them in detail with their partners. So long as Rel has no intention of doing anything more deep than give the complement, then there is no "secret". That interaction does not infringe upon the husband-wife bond in the slightest. It is a non-issue.

Or, it should be a non-issue. If there's such a lack of trust between a married couple that a complement would be an issue, then that lack of trust is the problem, not the "secret".
 

Umbran said:
Wsell, a large part of this is not how you would see it or interpret it, now is it? It's that darned free will - people take things from their own frame of reference, not ours. She'll interpret it as she sees fit.
I didn't say it had anything to do whatsoever with how I'd interpret it; I said I don't see how she could interpret it any other way. She may be completely unlike anyone else I've ever met, and interpret it differently anyway, but when a complete stranger that you've known for fifteen minutes gives you a compliment as he walks out of your life never to be seen again, that's hardly flirting. It's only flirting if there's an undercurrent of sexuality there; an undercurrent of going somewhere else, even if it's just playful and not serious. This is just saying something nice.
Umbran said:
A compliment on attractiveness means you've been paying attention to how attractive they are. And, when a man pays attention to physical attractiveness, what else does one expect they're thinking, hm? :)
Umbran, I know you like to argue, but how can you make this statement and then turn around and tell fusangite that there's no reason to tell his wife because it's so completely irrelevant and inconsequential? Your habit of playing devil's advocate has you apparently taking both sides of a discussion in the same thread.

Either it's flirting and means something, or it isn't and it doesn't. You can't have it both ways. Which do you think?
 

Umbran said:
I don't think he's doing any such thing.

I don't always tell my wife what I had for lunch, or the details of every conversation I had with my coworkers. But that's not keeping secrets, it's just not cluttering up what little time we have together with irrelevancies.

A spouse is allowed to have interations with other human beings without discussing them in detail with their partners. So long as Rel has no intention of doing anything more deep than give the complement, then there is no "secret". That interaction does not infringe upon the husband-wife bond in the slightest. It is a non-issue.

Or, it should be a non-issue. If there's such a lack of trust between a married couple that a complement would be an issue, then that lack of trust is the problem, not the "secret".
Couldn't have put it better myself.

Cheers,
Liam
 

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