Enterprise 05-26-04

[Trainz]

OK, I did a photo analysis and this is what I observed (WAY too much time on my hands):

The dude on the left is the Nazi-alien from the final episode, and the dudes on the right are remans. The ressemblance is similar, but there are differences:

1- The two diagonal ridges on the nazi's forehead are absent on the reman pictures.
2- The nose is bigger on the nazi, and the reman's nostrils aren't facing down, but forward.
3- The nazi has red eyes.
4- The reman has full collagen lips, the nazi's are thin.

So I don't think it's a reman...

Also... am I the only one that thought "Red Skull" when seeing the nazi alien ?

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

Well, it was an exaggeration. One of the dumbest things about Star Trek all the time is that Earth seems to be lightly defended. I can see why that might be the case in TOS or NG era episodes, where the Federation is huge and Earth isn't facing a lot of direct threats, but here, it's just stupid. Archer's mission has already shown that there are a lot of nasty hostile aliens out there, building up defenses makes sense (especially if the Vulcans take a hands-off approach to it).



Yeah, in that episode though, some Starfleet officers attempted a military coup because of paranoia about Dominion agents. I don't know how much that affected the status quo, but it seemed to be presented as unusual.

I guess you`re right that it might have been "underdefended" given the current situation (I only read the spoilers here - in Germany, they haven`t shown the 3rd+ seasons yet).
But maybe it just shows the weakness of Earth - they build many freighters, but they have only weak orbital defenses, since they were never threatened by anybody. Now, they slowly begin to build up their fleet, but there are still not enough resources to do it.
And probably until the recent events, they still think of enemies as wanting to invade Earth, and in this case, Earth might have a strong, standing army.

(As a side note: I always wondered why the Earth Alliance in Babylon 5 was able to build so many ships on such a short notice. 5 years after the Minbari War, they already had hundreds of Omega Class Destroyers, the newest craft of the fleet - and these ships are much bigger than any marine vessel today. Earth did not seem to have that many colonies in B5, at least not as many as the Federation in Startrek)

 

[aliensex]

Also... am I the only one that thought "Red Skull" when seeing the nazi alien ?

I guess that makes Archer... Captain America!

 

[Mark]

I think the lack of defense can be attributed to the sudden appearance of the weapon from out of the conduit, virtually from nowhere to on their doorstep. Even if every military ship that might have been constructed up through that time had been in direct orbit of Earth, that's a heck of a lot of space to cover and the odds that even one vessel would have been in striking distance seems remote. Whereas the Andorians have a bit more speed and ability to be on alert and to quickly respond to a sudden appearance. I'm not having any trouble with how they chose to portray things.

 

[Trainz]

Plus Shran told Archer "Are you surprised we were successful in tracking your position following you through the vortex" or somesuch...

Star Trek do the extra effort in trying to cover it's logical plot holes. It doesn't cover them all, but I'm quite satisfied with WHAT they do cover.

It's a Science-Fiction show. Trying to find faults in something so fantastic is an exercise in futility. It can be interesting, but at one point one must just sit back and enjoy the show. ST is coherent enough for me.

 

[Orius]

OK, I did a photo analysis and this is what I observed (WAY too much time on my hands):

The dude on the left is the Nazi-alien from the final episode, and the dudes on the right are remans. The ressemblance is similar, but there are differences:

1- The two diagonal ridges on the nazi's forehead are absent on the reman pictures.
2- The nose is bigger on the nazi, and the reman's nostrils aren't facing down, but forward.
3- The nazi has red eyes.
4- The reman has full collagen lips, the nazi's are thin.

So I don't think it's a reman...

Yeah, there are some slight differences. Maybe it's not a Reman, there was no explaination given to it whatsoever in the episode.

However, the makeup differences seem slight to me, and could be a result of different budgets for Nemesis and Enterprise.

Personally, I'm saying it's a Reman, cause I want to see a plot involving Romulans...

 

[Silver Moon]

I guess that makes Archer... Captain America!

Merriweather will look great in the Falcon's costume, but I just can't see Tripp as Bucky.

 

[Trainz]

Yeah, there are some slight differences. Maybe it's not a Reman, there was no explaination given to it whatsoever in the episode.

However, the makeup differences seem slight to me, and could be a result of different budgets for Nemesis and Enterprise.

Personally, I'm saying it's a Reman, cause I want to see a plot involving Romulans...

I would also find it quite cool.

What would be less cool (but I think more probable) is that Herr Nazi here is a reptilian xindii... doesn't make sense, but hey.

 

[Staffan]

(As a side note: I always wondered why the Earth Alliance in Babylon 5 was able to build so many ships on such a short notice. 5 years after the Minbari War, they already had hundreds of Omega Class Destroyers, the newest craft of the fleet - and these ships are much bigger than any marine vessel today. Earth did not seem to have that many colonies in B5, at least not as many as the Federation in Startrek)

Well, it's more like 15 years than 5 - the Minbari war took place 10 years before the pilot, 11 years before season 1, and 14 years before the start of season 4. The big armada of Omega-class destroyers didn't show up until the end of season 4, so that's 15 years.

Also, Earth had the aid of the Shadows when making the Omegas (I think - I know Morden had an in with Clarke at least, but I'm not sure they aided in fleet construction), and that buys a whole lot of forgiveness for the time scale.

 

[Eternalknight]

First, as has been pointed out, Enterprise should have been able to tell that it was not the Earth of their era even without using advanced sensors. (You can probably tell the difference between San Francisco in the 1940s and 2004 from the air.) So, this was weak writing.

To be fair, Tripp and Mayweather said that SF looked the same. This leads me to believe it is an alternate present rather than the past.