aye, and this is definitely the better part of valor.I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Heck, I used to do naughty word like this without even realizing it! We aren't as self-aware as we should be - all of us.
Now, strategically, why would I give them he benefit of the doubt? Because it's more productive. If they are a bad actor, it is 99% certain that I cannot change or affect their behavior. But if this is a lack of awareness, I am giving them an opening, a way to save face AND perhaps improve in the future.
Attacked people get defensive. And then you have a fight, not a discussion
"Anyone" was a bad term to use, and I'll own up to that. I used a general term and I shouldn't.The person who quit and wasn't actually fired disagreed with her and she didn't call them a sexist. Why do you insist that she calls ANYONE that disagrees with her sexist? I think it's because, for whatever reason, you have an agenda to discredit her. I'm getting sick of it.
Ah, so you're giving Price notes about the medium she chose to use, not what she's saying. A very important point that we should definitely spend a lot of time discussing. Never mind that if she wrote a Medium post or whatever else you find more acceptable it's harder for others to interact with and share what she wrote, unless they...use something like Twitter?I understand and can work with Twitter very well, thank you. But there's multiple free options that are much better than Twitter for this type of content: twitlongers, blog sites like medium, etc. And no, if I write my novel on a napkin I'm not going to hold it against others when they tell me "well, reading your novel on a napkin is certainly not the best way to read it". Twitter was not designed and is not the primary vessel for denunciations (or any long message) of the sort. Seeing a link to a twitlonger or to a medium article is much more common and a better way to do things. No matter the platform you're using, no matter what year you're writing something, if you want to be heard and your message to come across, you make it accessible, well formatted and well presented.
True. She's an employee at ArenaNet, her profile says so. And she goes talking about the reality of narrative writing for MMORPGs. I'd quality her tone both as informative (for her readers) and a bit of a rant (it's not an easy job). So far so true.What happened is that she complained about a thing she was struggling with at work on Twitter (which is... perfectly normal)
First thing, the some dude is a media partner of ArenaNet and a streamer that spends most of his living time playing that game. He's very respectful in the way he approaches her. He says that he agrees with her, he says that he disagrees with some part of her take, he exposes his vision and he thanks her for her insight. Do note, that he doesn't explicity tell her how to do her job, he describes how AS players they can feel about the current narrative design and how he would prefer things to be.some dude came in and told her how to do her job for her. This is called "mansplaining" and it's problematic at best
I don't think it was justified. I think her initial reaction is problematic because this might be the most civil and courteous exchange you could have on twitter in such a situation. But this part, I can excuse, we all have tough days.She reacted angrily (justifiably so) to that, which led to a rant about mansplaining
She got fired over this message, which is what I think goes over the line.got the nascent KIA crowd (I don't remember if KIA existed then, but it was the mob that would later make up KIA) complained about it to ArenaNET and that is what got her fired.
And I apologize for the implication.Not at all, and I resent the implication that's what I was saying. I said what I said because based on your posts, it doesn't seem like you actually read those tweets. Because...
I have read the Twitter exchange, and that is exactly what happened. The man did not disagree with her, she complained about her work and a man gave her unsolicited advice, incredibly basic at that, as if she didn't have a clue how to do any part of her job at all. That is manspalining, and Price was completely justified in complaining about it.That's not what happened. At all. Which has been pointed out to you by someone else already. Seriously, go read that Twitter exchange again.
No, no, and no. Farewell to those strawmen.Or are you saying that ANY time someone who happens to be a male disagrees with someone who happens to be a female is mansplaining, or that a female can never be wrong? Well, it can't be the latter since you already admitted she was wrong in her first tweet, so does that mean if a male points out how she was wrong and Diego wasn't fired, they were mansplaining to her?
I mean, you obviously have a personal stake in defaming Jessica Price specifically at all costs, and while I can speculate as to why, that's not helpful to anybody.Either way, we seem to be at an impasse. So I won't be responding further. All I'm doing is repeating myself and no one wants to keep reading the same posts, especially if you're insistent in mischaracterizing my posts.
Paizo is not owned by a white man. And until Lisa Stevens recently retired, was not run by one.This includes the dynamic of these companies being dominated by white men.
I did not say any of these things.It's always something, isn't it? Why so shrill? Why so angry? Why not cover both sides? Why not take this up privately? Why not spend countless unpaid hours fact-checking and refining? Why not take this to the authorities instead?
Listen, I don't think we'll go anywhere with this discussion. You're taking this way further than it ought to. Some people said it was hard to follow some 150 posts on twitter split in like five different threads. The point was raised that maybe this isn't the best way to present that much information. There's no conspiracy or bad faith. Just people expressing the fact that it's not easy catch all the crumbs scattered on Twitter. That's it.Or, in this case, why not use a platform that would have a much smaller impact, but that's easier to read?
Always something.