D&D (2024) Missing - 2024 Starter Set

[Reynard]

Given that 2024 is supposed to be backwards compatible, they shouldn't.

People keep saying this like it means anything besides "you can keep using the adventures we keep in print." Everything else is going to get updated and phased out, with more recent offerings likely having the longest life. But Xanathar's and Tasha's are going to go the way of Volos and Modenkainen's with the first 2024 splat.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Kind of like life. Don't touch the hot stove or you will get burned.

Do you teach your kids like this? I don't think so.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

You run your way, and I'll run mine. It's not like I don't warn them of the danger beforehand. What's with the personal judgement?

I did not said how you did. If you warn them, good. Does the adventure as written warn them enough? I don't think so.
You are experienced. A starter set should have inexperienced DMs and players in mind.

 

[Micah Sweet]

Given that 2024 is supposed to be backwards compatible, they shouldn't.

"Backwards compatibility" is clearly on a spectrum with 5.5e

 

[Stormonu]

Not in the very first encounter. It's just not fun at all for a new player to die in their first battle.

"Defeat need not mean death".

If the goblins beat the snot out of the PCs in the first encounter, there's instructions right in the adventure the DM can use - rather than kill the PCs, the goblins leave them unconscious and loot their gear (Stormwrack has similar advice for the first fight as well). Gives the PCs a chance to make some enemies they'll want revenge against, once they find a way to gear back up and hunt the buggers down.

If the DM wants to be hard-core and kill dropped characters, that's their choice, and they can then deal with the consequences it causes at the table.

Personally though, if I'd been playing for the first time for all of 5-15 minutes before I lost my character in a game, I'd probably go find something else to do.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

People keep saying this like it means anything besides "you can keep using the adventures we keep in print." Everything else is going to get updated and phased out, with more recent offerings likely having the longest life. But Xanathar's and Tasha's are going to go the way of Volos and Modenkainen's with the first 2024 splat.

They're probably going to (mostly) go the way of Volo's and Mordenkainen's with the 2024 PHB...

 

[Reynard]

They're probably going to (mostly) go the way of Volo's and Mordenkainen's with the 2024 PHB...

I haven't been paying enough attention to know how much of the Xanathar's and Tasha's stuff is in the new PHB.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

I haven't been paying enough attention to know how much of the Xanathar's and Tasha's stuff is in the new PHB.

Not all the Subclasses, but some of them. Not all the extra options, but some of them. Probably all of the Spells, give or take. I expect a lot of the DM-facing stuff to be folded into the DMG too.

 

[Clint_L]

Stormwreck is really lame starter set, especially following in the footsteps of PHandelver, so I hope they do a better starter set just to have a better starter set.

 

[Clint_L]

Do you teach your kids like this? I don't think so.

Yeah, as a teacher, I really hate the "push 'em off the dock so they'll learn to swim!" attitude that folks who don't have a clue about teaching like to throw around.

Unless you are trying to teach kids to be afraid of water. And you. And for some of them to die.