OOC Discussion for A Kingdom of Ashes (The Battle of the Alder's Forest, and Beyond)

[The_Universe]

Of course. But remember, there are others that (technically) have a legitimate claim to the throne...some of whom you know. L'Aurel's a baroness by blood, but she has no royal claim. On the other hand, everyon's favorite Viscount might have an opportunity to throw his hat in the ring...

 

[Xath]

All hail King Archonus?

But then the question is...which one?

 

[Laurel]

Hey guys,
Have we decided how to get to Hyrule? Here are a few options.
Teleporting: At this point, It would be difficult to obtain a scroll of teleportation. So for options, we can use the last charge of the boots, taking four people to Hyrule. However, two people would be left behind.
Flying: Thane and Ohtar could fly some, but not all of us without becoming burdened. If we flew, we would make it back to Hyrule immediately before the fleeing elves. We'd have no time to rest/replenish resources.
Combo: 4 of us could teleport back, leaving 2 to fly back on Thane and Ohtar. These two would not have time to replenish resources, and would be at risk because they would be separated from the group.
-G

For immediate transport out and back inside the walls I thought there was an option of Kareth taking some via Dimension Door Monk equivalent and Xath using the last of the boot teleport.
But this means flying into position, so we have the last teleport for getting out. Unless Xath is saving/using one of her spells to also cast dimension door for getting in or out...?...

 

[Laurel]

And Archonus removes his hat and throws it into the ring gate.

Of course. But remember, there are others that (technically) have a legitimate claim to the throne...some of whom you know. L'Aurel's a baroness by blood, but she has no royal claim. On the other hand, everyon's favorite Viscount might have an opportunity to throw his hat in the ring...

Yes, but Tain has a better claim blood wise then any of them correct? He tried to kill everyone else with a higher claim-- well, that he knew existed at least--
I know that we knew what line Arhconus came from, but has he told us he is that high up in the house o' lords or any details of his family besides the little info. from pestering him on the boat?

Also for the DM, if a PC croaks, they are starting at level 1 with a new character right??

 

[The_Universe]

For immediate transport out and back inside the walls I thought there was an option of Kareth taking some via Dimension Door Monk equivalent and Xath using the last of the boot teleport.
But this means flying into position, so we have the last teleport for getting out. Unless Xath is saving/using one of her spells to also cast dimension door for getting in or out...?...

The Boot/Kaereth's Dimension door will work for getting in and out of Hyrwl once you reach the battlefield--that much has been decided. I think Gertie's question related to how you were going to get to Hyrwl from where you are currently, which 20-40 miles away.

 

[AIM-54]

Master Ryoko has his own kingdom, if he's going to rule anywhere, it'll be there. Kaereth would be very much against trying to set him up in Jaine's place.

As far as getting places, we still have plenty of time. We've just killed Syvattagor, at which point the army has not moved out and, with his disappearance, there's a good chance things are slightly confused, probably causing some delay. Secondly, if I remember correctly, Hyrwl is 30 miles away from Oceanus. This means it will take at least a full day of travel and probably a little longer for the army to get there. I'm not sure about the draconids need to rest/movement rates etc, but I do know that no massed army moves quickly or efficiently. It's just too difficult to keep all the elements together to ensure that you remain together so that you can strike the enemy en masse, which is how you want to hit them, particularly under these circumstances. I'm not sure how far away from Hyrwl we are, though, nor how long we might have to wait before the Black Orcs arrive, but I don't imagine it can be more than a days travel (and probably less, because any farther and our whole plan sorta crumbles). Depending on what kind of preparation people need, we could have our two Black Orc contacts remain and wait for them while the rest teleport back to Hyrwl. Then, Justice can summon the griffon and they can fly back. Just an idea.

 

[Laurel]

The Boot/Kaereth's Dimension door will work for getting in and out of Hyrwl once you reach the battlefield--that much has been decided. I think Gertie's question related to how you were going to get to Hyrwl from where you are currently, which 20-40 miles away.

Right, but we only have one teleport for the boots, so if we plan to use them to get out of battle we have to eliminate them as an idea of how to move from where we are now to the battlefield.
So we are left with flying or somethign else (I think it was mentioned that Xath could DD once, so mentioned it, just trying to think of poss.)
That was all I was trying to say.

Edit:: Looking at Jeremiah's stuff. Got it about the rulership, Kareth would know best
Also, if we have the time just flying back works.
Plus: No more of Xath's magic has to be tapped, faster and less tiring then us running it
Minus: Justice has to call Thane, so he is there till she dismisses him. Which also means if needed he can not poof beside her later on.
(I know there are more on both + and - but these were the first ones that popped into my head)

Are we giving the black orcs the ring gate? To send messages back and forth with Hywrl?

 

[Xath]

According to Kennon, all of us flying back would encumber both Thane and Ohtar, meaning that we would get back to Hyrule with the fleeing elves right on our heels. Teleporting would give us a chance to replenish resources, but 2 people would be left behind to get back some other way.

Why? Because we're sitting waiting for the black orcs. Waiting for them gives the army a chance to move.

 

[The_Universe]

If you wait for the black orcs, and FLY (even encumbered) you ought to be able to get there ahead of the fleeing elves. However, even with the power of flight, you won't have a lot of time. Maybe an hour in-game, perhaps two. As far as how much *real* time there'll be--not much at all. The battle will be long and complicated, and so get whatever planning you can done, here. It'll probably only be 15-20 minutes of time before the battle starts in real life, if I have anything to say about it...

And you need to tell the Black Orcs what they're going to be doing, as they aren't aware that they are marching from the Southern Hills directly into battle.

 

[Laurel]

According to Kennon, all of us flying back would encumber both Thane and Ohtar, meaning that we would get back to Hyrule with the fleeing elves right on our heels. Teleporting would give us a chance to replenish resources, but 2 people would be left behind to get back some other way.
Why? Because we're sitting waiting for the black orcs. Waiting for them gives the army a chance to move.

We can not teleport in, as we have agreed to use the teleport for getting out. Unless you have another way?

We are 20-40 miles away.
Regular flying it would take them 5.5 hours.
Hustling for them is 80 ft.x2, so it would take 2.75 hours.
If we could, racing all out it would only take 1.83 hours (80ft x3 for max load)

"Mounted Movement: A mount bearing a rider can move at a hustle. The damage it takes when doing so, however, is lethal damage, not nonlethal damage." So it would deal 1-2 points of actual damage to each animal. I would be fine with Ohtar taking the penalty and damage rather then use our last teleport now. But this is only my side I have no idea on Justice/Liz's feelings or thoughts here (or other people's).

For resources- we still have the ring gate right, why not use it? While we are standing around waiting for the black orcs to show.