PHB2 Druid Shapeshifter / Monk like

[Phasics]

Just a couple of quick Q's

1) Does Predator from get 1.5x STR bonus to damage because it is the sole attack of that form ?

2) Would a reasonable tweak be allowing the Druids unarmed damage to follow the monk unarmed damage progression ?
i.e.
Pred Form 1d6 at 1st, 1d8 at 4th, 1d10 at 8th etc
Arial Form 1d6 at 5th, 1d8 at 8th, 1d10 at 12th etc
Slay Form 1d8/1d6 at 12th, 1d10/1d8 at 15th, 2d6/1d10 at 19th etc

3) Would it be reasonable to extend the arial form to include an swim, climb and burrow forms with the same stats at 5th, i.e. can be a bird OR dolphin or Ape etc

4) Assuming 1 is true does the following logic hold. Druid 1/Monk 1 , STR of 18, (22) while in Predator Form. Monk has selected Decisive strike instead of flurry of blows.

Decisive Strike is made at +6(-2)= +4 , damage on a hit is 1d6+6(+3) x2 = 20 - 30 dmg
Dex 16 and wis 14 results in AC of 10 + 4 natural + 3 dex + 2 wis = 21 AC

In total a 2nd level character with an AC of 21 and +4 attack and 20-30dmg average , or have I made one of those assumption boo boo's ?



Thanks

NB if 4 is true I wouldn't consider wanting 2nd Q bonuses

 

[Dagredhel]

1) Does Predator from get 1.5x STR bonus to damage because it is the sole attack of that form ?

Yep.

2) Would a reasonable tweak be allowing the Druids unarmed damage to follow the monk unarmed damage progression ?
i.e.
Pred Form 1d6 at 1st, 1d8 at 4th, 1d10 at 8th etc
Arial Form 1d6 at 5th, 1d8 at 8th, 1d10 at 12th etc
Slay Form 1d8/1d6 at 12th, 1d10/1d8 at 15th, 2d6/1d10 at 19th etc?

The damage asociated with each form is meant to be appropriate for the level at which it can be assumed. However, it can be increased RAW via Improved Natural Attack or the Warshaper PrC. What you're suggesting is a free boost, so it really depends on the campaign's power level and what other liberties player's are allowed.

3) Would it be reasonable to extend the arial form to include an swim, climb and burrow forms with the same stats at 5th, i.e. can be a bird OR dolphin or Ape etc?

Adding an aquatic form is a very common house rule. Climb isn't too hard to get regardless, and fly will usually get you to the same places. A burrow speed is a bigger freebie, since it's an uncommon movement mode.

IMA(rrogant)O, allowing the option of a flying or an aquatic form is fair, or even allowing both at different levels. But piling on all of these at one shot seems a bit excessive.

4) Assuming 1 is true does the following logic hold. Druid 1/Monk 1 , STR of 18, (22) while in Predator Form. Monk has selected Decisive strike instead of flurry of blows.

Decisive Strike is made at +6(-2)= +4 , damage on a hit is 1d6+6(+3) x2 = 20 - 30 dmg
Dex 16 and wis 14 results in AC of 10 + 4 natural + 3 dex + 2 wis = 21 AC

In total a 2nd level character with an AC of 21 and +4 attack and 20-30dmg average , or have I made one of those assumption boo boo's ??

Sort of, and yes.

Decisive Strike applies to a monks unarmed strikes and special monk weapons only. It doesn't apply to the natural weapons of the Druid's Shapeshift forms. So if the Druid/Monk is making an unarmed strike (which is perfectly legit) then the damage would be (1d6 +9) x2. But bite damage couldn't be doubled this way.

The monk AC bonus would stack with the natural armor.

 

[Phasics]

Thanks

 

[Phasics]

New question

Power attack taken at 1st level

Base would be +6 attack, 1d6+9 dmg

Using Power attack at 2 e.g.

Would it then be +6(-2), 1d6+9+4 dmg (2x because bite treated as 2h)

or potentially a +6(-6), 1d6+9+12 for a 22-27dmg hit with 0 attk bonus

or am i misunderstanding power attack ?

 

[Dagredhel]

You don't get x2 benefit from Power Attack with a "sole natural weapon", only with an actual manufactured weapon:

From the FAQ:

Does a dragon with Power Attack add twice the number subtracted from attack rolls to damage rolls when making a tail slap?

No. While it shares some mathematical similarity to a twohanded weapon, the tail slap (or any other natural weapon that adds 1–1/2 the creature’s Strength bonus on damage rolls) doesn’t gain any other benefits applied to the use of a twohanded weapon.

You don't get x2 benefit from Power Attack with an unarmed strike, either.