Piracy of "The Valley of Frozen Tears"

I'm not at all in favor of just allowing pirates to skate, but you just have to weight the costs vs. the benefits. You'd probably be money ahead if you spent 2 or 3 hours writing a new product and getting sales than if you spent 2 or 3 hours trying to smack around this jerk.
 

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Greatwyrm said:
I'm not at all in favor of just allowing pirates to skate, but you just have to weight the costs vs. the benefits. You'd probably be money ahead if you spent 2 or 3 hours writing a new product and getting sales than if you spent 2 or 3 hours trying to smack around this jerk.


Ding!

We have a WINNER!!!
 

mroberon1972 said:
Anime Fansubs... Low quality anime fan subs... Anime is one of my few weaknesses, and I do buy it when it gets released in the U.S...

Actually, anime fansubs are not a piracy issue until a US company licenses a title. In Japan, the anime and manga industry sponsor the semi-annual comikete shows in Tokyo, where thousands of aspiring artists profit from corporate IP, often by violating the living hell out of the intellectual proprties of the big companies (and if you've ever seen the typical doujinshi, you know I mean that in more ways than one!).

With their support of those conventions every six months, they cannot expect to legally pursue the fansubbing community with good faith.
 

Joshua Randall said:
Tracking down the pirate and beating him to death has a certain appeal to it, yes? But vigilante-ism is also illegal.

I would probably file a complaint with his ISP and leave it at that. Let the authorities handle it (or not). And meanwhile, call your congressman and complain. Something does need to be done about this culture of wanton theft that we live in.
Are you 100% certain that the email address that is shown is the email addressed used by the poster? If not, you are using tactics that could potentially cause someone who is completely innocent a world of grief.
 



Don't be afraid to sue, even if you "look bad".

I was proud of Harlan Ellison going after those posting his works on Usenet. I think there should be some people who fight out of priciple, rather than just economic. He's going after them because the mentality is wrong.

People have to be forced to realize their actions have consequences. The law does enforce going after copyright infringers. Just giving up and stating that it's inevitable is like saying we shouldn't make anti-counterfeiting measures because people are going to do it anyway, or we shouldn't use toilet paper because our asses will just get dirty again anyway.

If people just give up on this, pircacy will become more rampant, especially thanks to the new memetic warfare going on regarding electronic media, the anti-copyright movements, etc.
 
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JohnRTroy said:
Don't be afraid to sue, even if you "look bad".

I was proud of Harlan Ellison going after those posting his works on Usenet. I think there should be some people who fight out of priciple, rather than just economic. He's going after them because the mentality is wrong.
Well, it's all nice and stuff, sticking up for what you believe in. But Moberon wasn't sure in the first place if he should do it or not. If your not sure you want to proceed with 'sueing', you shouldn't do it, to much risk. Both financially and mentaly. Talking big from the sidelines is all nifty and stuff, but your not in his shoes, so don't go giving him advice that has an equal chance to backfire.

JohnRTroy said:
People have to be forced to realize their actions have consequences.
This i so agree with, to many people don't realize or don't want to realize that what they're doing is illegal. Very annoying...

JohnRTroy said:
The law does enforce going after copyright infringers. Just giving up and stating that it's inevitable is like saying we shouldn't make anti-counterfeiting measures because people are going to do it anyway, or we shouldn't use toilet paper because our asses will just get dirty again anyway.
Counterfeiting is very harmful to society, 'piracy' isn't as harmful as counterfeiting (at least it isn't proven). Comparing 'piracy' to any other crime does the other crime a disservice, and often makes 'piracy' look more 'evil' than it really is.

JohnRTroy said:
If people just give up on this, pircacy will become more rampant, especially thanks to the new memetic warfare going on regarding electronic media, the anti-copyright movements, etc.
I really hope that people finally realise that copyrights and patents are getting more and more ridiculous, as are the periods of time that they are in 'effect'. Personally i don't care how this happens, but currently the memetic warfare method of justifying 'piracy' serems to be working...

I'm curious when someone will copyright a dna sequence ;-)
 

Cergorach said:
I'm curious when someone will copyright a dna sequence ;-)

This has been happening for about a year now. Drug companies copyright or patent the DNA sequences that they specifically target with various drugs as a means to prevent other drug companies from creating competing drugs to treat the same illness.
 

IMO you have to come on strong and let these people know that you take no prisoners type. You will use any means to take them down if you don't youspend the time and sweet to develop something else new and what is going to stop them again. from robbing you.
Get mad, stay mad, find them, raddle their cages until they wish they never heard of you. Then sue them into extention. Do not be upset its business. Unless you randomly pull names and numbers out of the phone book to sue.
Interesting part is that the patent on M:TG will expire in five years.
 

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