Pirates of Caribbean logic question MAJOR SPOILER

[TiQuinn]

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The movie wasn't half bad! I thought it lost a bit of steam towards the end, though I loved the scene with the pirates walking on the bottom of the ocean towards the boat. Depp and Rush were awesome. You can pretty much count on them to liven up any movie. The romance aspect didn't work, IMO. Especially the ending where the commodore just pretty much says, "Ok, so you love him instead of me. MEN, LOWER YOUR GUNS! EVERYTHING'S OKAY!" Seemed like they ran up against the time limit on the film and director had to wrap it all up within a minute.

 

[Umbran]

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Especially the ending where the commodore just pretty much says, "Ok, so you love him instead of me...."

Actually, I liked the way that worked out. Usually in Hollywood, the alternate love interest becomes a villain who seeks petty revenge on the Leading Man. Instead, here he's actually a decent guy who, when push comes to shove, acts in the best interests of the woman he claims to love, rather than to satisfy his own ego. If the blacksmith can risk his life for the woman he loves, why is it so hard to take another guy bending the rules a bit for the woman he loves?

 

[KnowTheToe]

I saw this movie last night and loved it. It was action packed, with just the right amount of humor, and had great characters. It also had many throw backs to old pirate movies. My only complaint was the cheesy ending, but it is a pirate movie and they usually have cheesy happy endings.

 

[WizarDru]

Saw it last night and LOVED IT! Best pirate movie in, what, decades?

Depp's performance as Jack Sparrow was fantastic. Why shouldn't he win an oscar? It's only a recent trend that serious dramatic actors win...comedic actors used to win as well. The story was good adventurous fun.

But you know what I really liked the best? Nobody had to be stupid for the plot to move forward. Everybody guessed what someone else said, or overheard it, and there were lots of twists and turns.

"Boys...GO FOR A WALK!"
"You mean you're not going to use the boats?....."

As for the forgiveness aspect, that's probably one of the most believable parts. What Sparrow historically could have done is ask for pardon, in return for hunting other pirates, or raiding the Spanish and other fleets. With a letter of Marque in his hands, he could become a privateer, instead of a pirate. Heck, it worked for folks like Blackbeard (although he immediately broak his oath, and was eventually hunted down like a dog....but that's another story).

 

[Aeris Winterood]

Time..

Someone mentioned the length of the movie... It was 150 minutes.... I had to go to the bathroom an hour into it... and was squirming the rest of the movie... I cnt believe I missed the credit's bonus scene.... Geees.. I was in the bathroom by that time!

 

[Piratecat]

I was thrown by the manacle thing, too, until I also realized that he could hang the doubled-over chain over the line and hold onto the loop.

He did - they actually showed him doing exactly that.

 

[mmu1]

He did - they actually showed him doing exactly that.

Well, that's what Depp did, but it's not what it looks at all in the shot of the stuntman sliding down the rope, which is probably what threw a lot of people off.

Anyway, the movie was great. Depp and Rush were amazing, the plot was very good for a summer action movie, the sets and the art design of the film were great, lots of good humor... One reviewer compared it, in terms of adventure movies, to the Indiana Jones films, and I don't think it's a bad comparison.

The one complaint I'd have if I bothered to approach the movie too seriously was how long everyone seemed to last against zombie pirates that can't be killed, when in "reality" it'd be like fighting the Terminator - he'll let you stab him and shoot him as many times as you want as long as he gets to kill you in the process... No need for all the "Cut, trust, parry, hah!" stuff, just let the other guy stab you and rip out his throat when his blade's stuck.

 

[drnuncheon]

The one complaint I'd have if I bothered to approach the movie too seriously was how long everyone seemed to last against zombie pirates that can't be killed, when in "reality" it'd be like fighting the Terminator - he'll let you stab him and shoot him as many times as you want as long as he gets to kill you in the process... No need for all the "Cut, trust, parry, hah!" stuff, just let the other guy stab you and rip out his throat when his blade's stuck.

Well, we have every indication that the pirates intended to a) break the curse (thus returning to life) and b) continue with their pirating lifestyle. Based on that, we see that the pirates can't really afford to get in the habit of letting people stab them with impunity, so they obviously work at keeping up their swordplay - even though it's not strictly necessary in their undead state.

J

 

[Mistwell]

Well, we have every indication that the pirates intended to a) break the curse (thus returning to life) and b) continue with their pirating lifestyle. Based on that, we see that the pirates can't really afford to get in the habit of letting people stab them with impunity, so they obviously work at keeping up their swordplay - even though it's not strictly necessary in their undead state.

J

I don't think the undead were totally immune from damage. If they lost a limb (like the hand that was lost), I suspect that limb would not reattach once they became mortal again. So pretty much any non-thrusting weapons could do damage to them that might end up being permanant (and even a thrust that was well placed). Not to mention it might take a very long time for one of them to walk along the ocean floor to return to a shore, if knocked overboard...and they better hope the return to mortality doesn't take place while they are still on that walk!

 

[mmu1]

Well, we have every indication that the pirates intended to a) break the curse (thus returning to life) and b) continue with their pirating lifestyle. Based on that, we see that the pirates can't really afford to get in the habit of letting people stab them with impunity, so they obviously work at keeping up their swordplay - even though it's not strictly necessary in their undead state.

J

True, I'm sure they'd rather not get stabbed (since they actually seem to feel pain, contrary to the "I feel nothing! Not the wind on my face..." line), but going into a fight knowing getting hit will be unpleasant, and nothing more, gives you an enormous advantage against a sane human being trying hard to stay in one piece. Anyone remember the fight at the end of Rob Roy?

And, contrary to what you say, many of them do seem to be extremely casual about getting injured - they just don't really take advantage of their state, because having them actually fence makes for more entertaining and dynamic combat scenes.

Still, as I said, I don't think it's really an issue, the movie is an action-adventure comedy...