Question about a particular readied action

[Stalker0]

Okay, first off a partial charge is a partial action, so I think that its preety clear you can simply make a move as a partial action (you can move as your hasted partial action after all).

Second, I don't think you would get an AOO from the move. The readied action is a seperate entity from your normal action, its not like haste where you tag it on to the beginning or ending of your turn. Unfortunately, there is no rules quote that I can think of to support either mine or the opposing view, so unless someone can pull up a page number we may each have to take our own opinions on this.

The question of whether the person has to complete the attack they started is really the big issue here. Its equivalent to saying, okay I attempt to disarm, provoking an AOO. My opponent takes his AOO to disarm me but he has improved disarm. The attack is successful, and I'm disarmed. Does that mean my initial disarm attempt has been spent? Or can I change it to a standard attack, albeit with just my fist? Or hell, can I just say the attack never happened and do something completely different?

Again, this is an issue the ph has never dealt with. Anyone got any faq quotes that might clear this one up?


I'm of the personal opinion, that when you declare an action in combat, your stuck with the consequences of that attack. If your opponent is clever and dodges you, I don't want my players saying "well I didn't REALLY attack yet" But that's just my opinion, I could be right

 

[Ranger REG]

Sorry, but any form of movement (with the exception of 5-feet step) will always provoke AoO when you move out of or within the area threatened by your enemies.

So if you partial charge on your readied action through an enemy's threatened area and he has not made any AoO for that round, expect an attempt to strike you.

 

[The_lone_gunman]

Sorry, but any form of movement (with the exception of 5-feet step) will always provoke AoO when you move out of or within the area threatened by your enemies.

So if you partial charge on your readied action through an enemy's threatened area and he has not made any AoO for that round, expect an attempt to strike you.

Sorry back but LEAVING a threatened space does not provoke an AOO if all you do is move.

Just clarifying your statement.

TLG

 

[dcollins]

Re: Re: Question about a particular readied action

By definition, you cannot move with a partial action, unless it's only a 5' step (combat adjustment), and you could only take that if you did not move at all in the round you readied the action.(2nd edit - unless you readied a Partial Charge, but movement would have to be in the same direction)

Let me try this more accurately than a previous poster:
One of your options with a partial action is indeed a single move (PH p. 127, Table 8-3).

 

[Zenon]

Re: Re: Re: Question about a particular readied action

Let me try this more accurately than a previous poster:
One of your options with a partial action is indeed a single move (PH p. 127, Table 8-3).

Ah, I knew I was missing something.

<smacks forehead>

I should have checked the Partial Actions chart.

Dang, we're at this 2 years now and I still learn something new...

Thanks dcollins! It seemed like something you should be able to do, but I couldn't get all the pieces together.

 

[Kae'Yoss]

Sorry back but LEAVING a threatened space does not provoke an AOO if all you do is move.

Just clarifying your statement.

TLG

Not entirely true.
The ruling says that moving through or out of threatened space provokes an AoO. There's an exception that the square you started in is not considered threatened if you do nothing but move in that round.

So, first, if you move away from him and are still in his threat range after you have moved 5 foot (1 quare), he will get an AoO. This can happen if you have to move through the square or if he has a reach of more than 5 feet.
Second, you can't do nothing but move in that round. Since you used your standard action to ready an action, this could be counted as something that's not moving (but that's up to the DM i think).


But, IYAM, this discussion is all moot. This is one of the things most DMs will ban outright. It may be allowed strictly rule-wise, but it disrupts the game-flow, especially at low levels. It's not as bad as the horse-idea, but should still be considered bad gaming. If you want to avoid being hit, there are other methods that do not completely mess up the game: total defense option, thousands of spells, moving where they can't follow, etc.

 

[Thanee]

I believe it's a Move action. Otherwise you couldn't do a Move and Attack with a standard attack action.

Sure, but it (it = moving your speed) is ALSO a Partial Action.

Actually, moving your speed is either a Move Action or a Standard Action or a Partial Action.

Basically a Double Move (Standard Action) without a Move (=Partial Action).

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

Re: Re: Re: Question about a particular readied action

Let me try this more accurately than a previous poster:
One of your options with a partial action is indeed a single move (PH p. 127, Table 8-3).

Yeah, I guess that was more accurate!

Bye
Thanee

 

[Stalker0]

I wouldn't call this tactic bad gaming, its simply another combat option to utlize. For instance, using it on a golem while your archers and mages rain on it. Pulling yourself back from a battle to get healed while still holding off the enemy. I agree it may or may not be allowed, because either way we go it seems we're in house rule territory, but I wouldn't call it broken or bad gaming outright.